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Sepacore says...

>> ^lantern53:
"First President to violate the War Powers Act."

"First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions."

"First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN)."

"First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory."
^ None of your points state the reasons for why these things did or needed to or shouldn't have occurred. There's more to situations than just the short points you wish to convey. Without the background to define the value of such actions/decisions, you and the video are both presenting one-sided views for preferred agendas.

>> ^lantern53:
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

^ A number of your points seem to be strategically vague. Example above, it wouldn't have been difficult to state which law you refer to, or to include a link for additional info.

>> ^lantern53:
First President to terminate America's ability to put a man in space.
^ This is not what has happened. They're spreading the capability of space exploration to the private sector to reduce costs so NASA can focus its costs on other technology advancement and space exploration projects. This in no way conveys that American Astronauts will not be going back to space. Also worth noting that you don't have to work for NASA to be an American in space.
Don't get me wrong, i was disappointed to hear the cancellation of the 2020 moon mission as well, but the reasons for it are mostly 'building other foundations for exploration and spreading the costs'.. also this doesn't mean there couldn't be a revisit later down the track once better technologies are at hand.
Personally i think it's a good idea to have private sectors taking some of the cost burden away, as they will help to advance additional new space exploration technologies that NASA could also use for later moon, Mars etc missions.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8489097.stm
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/marshall/beyondearth/explore.html

>> ^lantern53:
First President to go on multiple global 'apology tours'.
^ This one is taking the mickey isn't it? Under the last President and Vice-President, the US quite effectively caused concern to a large portion of the rest of the world with the 'let's go in guns blazing regardless of what others say' position.
Now I'm not saying that's ultimately wrong, indeed in some cases it would be quite right to do so.. what I'm saying is that other countries saw that the USA did not care what the rest of the world had to say in relation to these world-wide matters, which was understandably concerning to some, and the current President was introducing himself to the word leaders in person so they could see that he wasn't war hungry.

>> ^lantern53:
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date.
^ It's called recreation. If you don't think that the position is stressful enough to require regular relaxation so one can maintain mental stability required to take in lots of information's across many subjects and make difficult decisions, then you should reconsider the differences between what you do, what the President does, and how much time you each sit around doing nothing to advance the country and it's relevant stability.

Cheers for all the points made, good to see another one-sided view to compare to the video's. Makes it easier to asses the value of the contents.

Assessment (at first glace with brief researching): the goods that were done, out weigh the bads.

Well done Obama, keep heading in the direction that looks like you actually care about your citizens.

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lantern53 says...

Did they mention these?

First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
First President to violate the War Powers Act.
First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.
First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
First President to terminate America's ability to put a man in space.
First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date.
First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
First President to go on multiple global 'apology tours'.
First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayer.
First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
First President to repeat the Holy Quran tells us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
First President to take a 17 day vacation.

Cenk Turns off Peter Schiffs Mic, Gets Pissed at the 1%

Porksandwich says...

And after thinking about it for a bit.

Do you honestly think anything has been learned from this whole economic meltdown fiasco? It seems like history would provide us with an example of how to restructure and set up a stable environment for all to operate in. But it seems like despite all evidence, the people with the power and influence to set it right are happy with the way it is now. They even argue it should be even more so.

Has there been anything that's been reacted upon in a positive manner for the majority of the population? I can't think of anything. There was no punishment given, amnesty given to individuals......nothing that they repealed or revoked. Everything that's been put in or is trying to be enacted has been to squelch people in a myriad of ways....to the great joy of the corporations, politicians on their strings, and the people pulling the strings.

Hitler Reacts to Ron Paul's Rise in Polls

aurens says...

Could you kindly describe the specific way in which a Neo-Nazi's $500 donation would exert an influence over a candidate like Ron Paul? It seems like an absurd generalization to me. (Besides, Don Black—the Neo-Nazi in question—has said publicly that his support of Ron Paul has nothing to do with endorsing white supremacy: "Black said he supports Paul's stance on ending the war in Iraq, securing U.S. borders and his opposition to amnesty for illegal immigrants. 'We know that he's not a white nationalist. He says he isn't and we believe him, but on the issues, there's only one choice,' Black said.")

On a tangential note, you seem to be taking an odd stance with your comment about "murders" and "child rapists." Are you suggesting that certain criminals ought not be allowed to make contributions to political campaigns? If so, where would you draw the line?>> ^longde:

The fact remains that when people give you money, they exert influence over you.
Even if you're just taking advantage of some suckers, the appearance of impropriety should be avoided. A reasonable person would wonder why doesn't he give back the money. Is he: a) too needy to return the donation, in which case the nazi's would have some influence; or b) too unprincipled to give back the money from violent hatemongers. It also begs the question: just who won't such a man take money from? Murderers? Child rapists? Would Paul's below explanation be acceptable in those cases?
>> ^aurens:
Well, you linked to an article from 2007, so it would be more accurate to say "Neo-Nazis helped bankroll Ron Paul's last campaign."
In any event, I remember when this came up. Certain people were insisting that Ron Paul return the campaign contributions, which he refused to do (as far as I can remember). I thought his rationale was remarkably astute: If racist, bigoted people want to undermine their own efforts by giving money to a campaign based on liberty, mistakenly thinking that they'll be influencing the message of the campaign, then let them do so. In the end, we'll end up with (1) more liberty and (2) less money in the hands of the bigots.
More generally, though, this issue reminds me of a certain argument flung by religious folk, namely the condemnation of atheism based on the fact that "atheists" like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot (forget the fact that Hitler wasn't an atheist) perpetrated some of the last century's worst atrocities. (Richard Dawkins, in an interview with Bill O'Reilly, illustrated the fallacy quite simply: "Stalin did not do bad things because he was an atheist. I mean Hitler and Stalin both had mustaches, but we don't say it was their mustaches that made them evil.")
The generalized point is that the value of an idea is not determined by the value of the person advocating for that idea. A fool may very well endorse an intelligent belief; it doesn't make the belief any less intelligent.>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Nazis are literally bankrolling Ron Paul's campaign: http://digitaljournal.com/article/246244



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Jimmy Carr and the Heckling Amnesty

X CIA asset explains the true events leading up to 9/11

marbles says...

Susan Lindauer:
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I got indicted for protesting the War in Iraq. My crime was delivering a warm-hearted letter to my second cousin White House Chief of Staff, Andy Card, which correctly outlined the consequences of War. Suspiciously, I had been one of the very few Assets covering the Iraqi Embassy at the United Nations for seven years. Thus, I was personally acquainted with the truth about Pre-War Intelligence, which differs remarkably from the story invented by GOP leaders on Capitol Hill.

More dangerously still, my team gave advance warnings about the 9/11 attack and solicited Iraq’s cooperation after 9/11. In August 2001, at the urging of my CIA handler, I phoned Attorney General John Ashcroft’s private staff and the Office of Counter-Terrorism to ask for an “emergency broadcast alert” across all federal agencies, seeking any fragment of intelligence on airplane hijackings. My warning cited the World Trade Center as the identified target. Highly credible independent sources have confirmed that in August, 2001 I described the strike on the World Trade Center as “imminent,” with the potential for “mass casualties, possibly using a miniature thermonuclear device.”

Thanks to the Patriot Act, Americans have zero knowledge of those truths, though the 9/11 Community has zoomed close for years. Republican leaders invoked the Patriot Act to take me down 30 days after I approached the offices of Senator John McCain and Trent Lott, requesting to testify about Iraq’s cooperation with the 9/11 investigation and a comprehensive peace framework that would have achieved every U.S. and British objective without firing a shot. Ironically, because of the Patriot Act, my conversations with Senator Trent Lott’s staff got captured on wire taps, proving my story.

You see, contrary to rhetoric on Capitol Hill, the Patriot Act is first and foremost a weapon to bludgeon whistleblowers and political dissidents. Indeed, it has been singularly crafted for that purpose.

The American people are not nearly as frightened as they should be. Many Americans expect the Patriot Act to limit its surveillance to overseas communications. Yet while I was under indictment, Maryland State Police invoked the Patriot Act to wire tap activists tied to the Chesapeake Climate Action Network, an environmental group dedicated to wind power, solar energy and recycling. The DC Anti-War Network was targeted as a “white supremacist group.” Amnesty International and anti-death penalty activists got targeted for alleged “civil rights violations.”
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I cannot forget. I cannot forget how I was subjected to secret charges, secret evidence and secret grand jury testimony that denied my right to face my accusers or their accusations in open court, throughout five years of indictment. I cannot forget my imprisonment on a Texas military base for a year without a trial or evidentiary hearing.

I cannot forget how the FBI, the US Attorneys Office, the Bureau of Prisons and the main Justice office in Washington — independently and collectively verified my story— then falsified testimony to Chief Justice Michael Mukasey, denying our 9/11 warnings and my long-time status as a U.S. intelligence Asset, though my witnesses had aggressively confronted them. Apparently the Patriot Act allows the Justice Department to withhold corroborating evidence and testimony from the Court, if it is deemed “classified.”

I cannot forget threats of forcible drugging and indefinite detention up to 10 years, until I could be “cured” of believing what everybody wanted to deny— because it was damn inconvenient to politicians in Washington anxious to hold onto power.
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ACLU-just say no to the war on drugs

marinara says...

upvote for politics.

obvious fault w/ this video. if you're going to complain about war on drugs, don't pick a young black man to argue for amnesty. pick a soccer mom.

also worth mentioning Portugal, who has ended the war on drugs with good sucess.

Senator Durban says illegal immigrant could be president

TheGenk says...

>> ^quantumushroom:

He's referring to the DREAM act, another yet-to-pass roundabout amnesty program courtesy of the mexicrats.
"We can't give amnesty to the criminal parents so we'll legalize their children! The welfare state and our voter rolls will continue to grow while the dumbass taxpayers suck it up!"


By "mexicrats" you mean Reagan-Republicans, right?

Senator Durban says illegal immigrant could be president

quantumushroom says...

He's referring to the DREAM act, another yet-to-pass roundabout amnesty program courtesy of the mexicrats.

"We can't give amnesty to the criminal parents so we'll legalize their children! The welfare state and our voter rolls will continue to grow while the dumbass taxpayers suck it up!"

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Women arrested in Egypt protests subjected to virginity test

Obama on Ryan Plan: It's Not Going to Happen

Stormsinger says...

I've reached the point where the very fact that he says he rejects this plan, makes me very nervous. Virtually everything he's ever promised, he's done a 180 on. Amnesty for telecoms and warrentless wiretaps...Guantanamo Bay...the public option...standing up with unions...state secrets...DOMA. The list goes on and on. In every case, his actions utterly refuted his promises.

The only positive thing I can say for him is, he's still better than McCain. But not by much.

John Pilger's 2007 film "The War On Democracy"



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