>> ^therealblankman:

>> ^Jinx:
Lets just agree that Tank/APC train could fire one hell of a broadside.

You're absolutely right of course, but let me put it to you another way.
There are, let's say, 99 Bradleys on that train. You pit all of them against say a half-dozen M1A2 Abrams Tanks and the tanks would destroy or disable every one of those Bradleys without having one single hole put through them. Well, this is if it were possible to carry enough ammunition.
The 25mm Bushmaster gun that the Bradleys carry is a good weapon against troops and lightly armoured vehicles, but those rounds would simply bounce harmlessly off the tank. Likewise the armour of a Bradley is fine against most small arms fire but would likely be destroyed by a single RPG, or perhaps even an armour-piercing .50 BMG round.

Don't Bradley's sometimes carry TOW missiles?

I would like to see what would happen if 99 25mm cannons all fired on a single Abrams. I would have though the danger to the Tank would not be a round penetrating the armour, rather that the tank would be eroded rather quickly by that much metal flying at it.

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>> ^Jinx:

Lets just agree that Tank/APC train could fire one hell of a broadside.


You're absolutely right of course, but let me put it to you another way.

There are, let's say, 99 Bradleys on that train. You pit all of them against say a half-dozen M1A2 Abrams Tanks and the tanks would destroy or disable every one of those Bradleys without having one single hole put through them. Well, this is if it were possible to carry enough ammunition.

The 25mm Bushmaster gun that the Bradleys carry is a good weapon against troops and lightly armoured vehicles, but those rounds would simply bounce harmlessly off the tank. Likewise the armour of a Bradley is fine against most small arms fire but would likely be destroyed by a single RPG, or perhaps even an armour-piercing .50 BMG round.

Good concept, poor execution. Here's how I would have done it:

1 - Shock - Detail WTF!!!!
2 - Denial - I get other things done, I took a poop yesterday, so it's all good.
3 - Anger - Why are you sending level gazillion bloody hagraven at me so early FFFFUUUUUU
4 - Bargaining - Just gonna finish this quest and stash the loot at home before bed... oh, I have to sell off all the other stuff first too so I don't forget... oh and I'll just discover the next quest loca-DRAGON! oh, I can just stash this loot at home before bed...
5 - Guilt - Sorry that I seem more interested in my game than you babe, but in my Skyrimmed brain, you're just like another NPC to me. That's a bad thing to say, right? Whatever.
6 - Depression - <same dialogue, but with complete emotional detachment -- both true depression and RPGs induce such states>
7 - Acceptance - I AM this game, and there's nobody left to get in our way now, is there, my precious?

People who think Skyrim is the best RPG made havent played through the Baldurs Gate series where things you do in the game actually matter and effect the way the main quest line plays out.

Dark Souls is an awesome game. It's like Skyrim's evil twin brother. It features a huge beautiful world, with lots of mood and style, with some great enemies and bosses, with customizable stats, armor, magic and weapons and it's hard as balls. Unlike Skyrim, this game is extremely difficult. It purposely fucks with your head, leads you into traps a rewards failure with harsh punishment. The upside is that it feels like you are one tiny adventurer against huge odds in a hostile world, and when you accomplish something it is extremely gratifying. Skyrim is great, but you can easily 'save' and cheat your way through so many of the boss battles. On the rare occasion when you can figure out a way to cheat a boss to death in Dark Souls, it feels completely justified out of self defense against a huge and powerful foe. Anyway, I liked it. Still haven't finished it and I may not because it's so fucking hard and long (go ahead gwiz, it's the perfect set up), but it's an awesome horror-adventure action RPG that rewards caution, smarts, planning and skill - unlike Skryrim, which I liked alot too.

>> ^Quboid:

>> ^therealblankman:
>> ^gwiz665:
I can't agree with him on the last one, but otherwise fine fine.

That's because, no offense intended, like everyone else who keeps buying these games you're a sycophantic idiot who happily swallows whatever tiresome, un-original, unimaginative, over-rated swollen appendage the major publishers choose to repetitively cram down your open throat year after year.
All the best.

I must say, I'm getting pretty tired of the hipster "you've probably never heard of the games I play" attitude that is prevalent in PC gaming. The "You like Modern Warfare 3? That's cute, personally I'm more into SpaceChem but whatever" attitude. This is probably unfair on you @therealblankman but this certainly applies to a lot of people.
You know why we have BF3 and MW3? Because BFBC2 and MW2 sold well. Why was that? Because people liked them. Not because major mainstream publishers told us to like them, but because we actually did like them, in general. I don't care for MW3 but I bought Skyrim because I like "dumbed down, overly simplified RPGs" like Oblivion.
I don't think less of people who prefer MW3 to X3. I think less of people who play them on consoles, but that's because console gamers are simply genetically inferior.


Like I said to gwiz when I pm'd him: I don't begrudge these games simply because they're successful. Hell, these game's biggest crimes are that they're simply repetitive, derivative, formulaic and most egregious of all... BORING. If Twilight were a video game, it would be MWx. To quote H.L. Mencken "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people".

Shit, if nobody made money off them then we wouldn't have games to play. My favorite games of the past year are both huge hits, but at least they're fun to play... Batman: Arkham City and Portal 2. Haven't gotten into Skyrim (yet), but that's only because I'm terrified that I'll have to quit my job and not have friends any more if I start playing it- I did play Oblivion so I know of what I speak.

As for consoles vs PCs, you're right of course. At least partially- I frankly got sick of spending $400 every year or so to upgrade my graphics card to be able to even play the latest and greatest, so I've given up and joined the PS3 darkside. But you know what, there's hope for that as well. Valve software is bridging that divide in the right way. I bought Portal 2 for PS3 but using a code I can also play it on my PC, and if I want to play Co-op with someone it doesn't matter whether they're on a PC or PS3 either! Maybe other publishers will do the same going forward, but I doubt it.

>> ^therealblankman:

>> ^gwiz665:
I can't agree with him on the last one, but otherwise fine fine.

That's because, no offense intended, like everyone else who keeps buying these games you're a sycophantic idiot who happily swallows whatever tiresome, un-original, unimaginative, over-rated swollen appendage the major publishers choose to repetitively cram down your open throat year after year.
All the best.


I must say, I'm getting pretty tired of the hipster "you've probably never heard of the games I play" attitude that is prevalent in PC gaming. The "You like Modern Warfare 3? That's cute, personally I'm more into SpaceChem but whatever" attitude. This is probably unfair on you @therealblankman but this certainly applies to a lot of people.

You know why we have BF3 and MW3? Because BFBC2 and MW2 sold well. Why was that? Because people liked them. Not because major mainstream publishers told us to like them, but because we actually did like them, in general. I don't care for MW3 but I bought Skyrim because I like "dumbed down, overly simplified RPGs" like Oblivion.

I don't think less of people who prefer MW3 to X3. I think less of people who play them on consoles, but that's because console gamers are simply genetically inferior.

i meant single player RPG's sorry. who are you RPing with? ...

peggle is the bomb. go stay in your lonely, broken fantasy with no megapoint replays.

>> ^Fletch:

Finally... a game that plays like an old rpg, but with updated graphics. Definitely Dungeon Master and Eye of the Beholder, but it also reminds me of one of my favorite party-based rpgs of all time, Wizardry 8. It's really come a long way in the months since they released those first vids of the interface and gameplay. Can't wait for this one.


Speaking of Eye of Beholder, check this article out: http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/eyeofthebeholder/eyeofthebeholder.htm ...

Finally... a game that plays like an old rpg, but with updated graphics. Definitely Dungeon Master and Eye of the Beholder, but it also reminds me of one of my favorite party-based rpgs of all time, Wizardry 8. It's really come a long way in the months since they released those first vids of the interface and gameplay. Can't wait for this one.

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Absolutely - it was a great game. Warren Robinette is a game deity. It's just that most of the cool graphics had to happen in your head.>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

I know it looks like shit, but this was pretty amazing back in the day. Considering the progress made in 30 years, I can only imagine what games will look like in another 30 years. >> ^dag:
12 year-old me back in 1982 would have gone completely apeshit on seeing Skyrim. This was the state-of-the-art RPG at the time:

You can see the similarities to Skyrim though.

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>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

I know it looks like shit, but this was pretty amazing back in the day. Considering the progress made in 30 years, I can only imagine what games will look like in another 30 years. >> ^dag:
12 year-old me back in 1982 would have gone completely apeshit on seeing Skyrim. This was the state-of-the-art RPG at the time:

You can see the similarities to Skyrim though.

I know it looks like shit, but this was pretty amazing back in the day. Considering the progress made in 30 years, I can only imagine what games will look like in another 30 years. >> ^dag:

12 year-old me back in 1982 would have gone completely apeshit on seeing Skyrim. This was the state-of-the-art RPG at the time:

You can see the similarities to Skyrim though.

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12 year-old me back in 1982 would have gone completely apeshit on seeing Skyrim. This was the state-of-the-art RPG at the time:



You can see the similarities to Skyrim though.

How anyone can enjoy swordplay this simple after playing mount and blade is beyond me..

For the rpg elements i dont know