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*long. Wow it's like the only difference between Hezbollah and America is they take care of their veterans

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>> ^acidSpine:

long. Wow it's like the only difference between Hezbollah and America is they take care of their veterans


They are even in large part foreigners to Lebanon like the Americans, being founded pre-dominantly by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and still receiving most of their support through Iran and Syria.

Also, let's not forget the racism. From Hezbollah's own description of itself:

Our primary assumption in our fight against Israel states that the Zionist entity is
aggressive from its inception, and built on lands wrested from their owners, at the
expense of the rights of the Muslim people. Therefore our struggle will end only when
this entity is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no cease fire, and no peace
agreements, whether separate or consolidated.
We vigorously condemn all plans for negotiation with Israel, and regard all negotiators as
enemies, for the reason that such negotiation is nothing but the recognition of the
legitimacy of the Zionist occupation of Palestine. Therefore we oppose and reject the
Camp David Agreements, the proposals of King Fahd, the Fez and Reagan plan,
Brezhnev's and the French-Egyptian proposals, and all other programs that include the
recognition (even the implied recognition) of the Zionist entity.

Now re-read and remember that the 'Zionist entity' is Hezbollah's name for the entire state of Israel, and all that have any desire to see it continue to exist.

>> ^bcglorf:

>> ^acidSpine:
long. Wow it's like the only difference between Hezbollah and America is they take care of their veterans

They are even in large part foreigners to Lebanon like the Americans, being founded pre-dominantly by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and still receiving most of their support through Iran and Syria.
Also, let's not forget the racism. From Hezbollah's own description of itself:
Our primary assumption in our fight against Israel states that the Zionist entity is
aggressive from its inception, and built on lands wrested from their owners, at the
expense of the rights of the Muslim people. Therefore our struggle will end only when
this entity is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no cease fire, and no peace
agreements, whether separate or consolidated.
We vigorously condemn all plans for negotiation with Israel, and regard all negotiators as
enemies, for the reason that such negotiation is nothing but the recognition of the
legitimacy of the Zionist occupation of Palestine. Therefore we oppose and reject the
Camp David Agreements, the proposals of King Fahd, the Fez and Reagan plan,
Brezhnev's and the French-Egyptian proposals, and all other programs that include the
recognition (even the implied recognition) of the Zionist entity.
Now re-read and remember that the 'Zionist entity' is Hezbollah's name for the entire state of Israel, and all that have any desire to see it continue to exist.


First of all, I don't think seperating the Muslim states into countries is a useful exercise when dealing with this sort of issue, since the existing states were divided up by western conquerers in times past, countries are essentialy an artificial, arbitrary construct. Muslim solidarity reigns supreme. The Jews wouldn't even have had the opportuntity to steal palestinian land had not the English occupied it beforehand.

Secondly, I can't see any racism in the quote you provided (didn't click the link cause you never know these days, could land me in guantanamo, ironic since we're talking about recently stolen land ) All it says is that Israel (zionism solidified) has been "aggressive since it's inception", built on stolen land, they want it back and all treaties drawn up by the US are bullshit and Hezbollah won't accept them. Nothing racist there.

Just an honest question here to anyone really. Why were Jews relocated to Palestine folowing WWII? Surely some existing friendly country could have taken them in. Space is clearly not an issue consideing the dimuntitive scale of the region in question. The only answer I can think of off the top of my head is that there was an express desire to reclaim the "holy land" (what God probably calls the COLOSSEUM!!!!) after 2000 odd years away.

Anyway, if it isn't clear, I'm on the Palesininan side of this debate but I feel free from any accusations of bias since I am neither a Muslim, Jew or Zionist Christian. I'm just male, middle class and white like the song but I think I have a solution if you would just hear me out.

Ok, here goes. control of the middle eastern oil fields is removed from corporate ownership and handed over part and parcel of universal arab soveringnty from western backed dictatorships including the Saudi royal family. Part of the profits from the oil will go to compensate Israeli folk for their relocation to Europe, North America, Australia, anywhere really that could accomodate for Isarelies culturaly. The govenment of Israel will liquidise all assets not essential to the re-establishment of Palestine (ie. everything but their tanks and their bombs and their guns and their bombs, whats in your head, in your head, in your head, zombie, zombie, zombie) leaving the infrastructure entact and using the profits as reparations to Palestine for 40+ years of repression. I think it would be fair that America pays Palestine a salary equal to that of the miltary aid given to Israel during their enduring occupation. Think that sounds unfair, check out the debt 3rd world countries are compelled to pay as a price for their autonomy over their former opressors.

Wow, thats about five times bigger than any other post Iv'e made on the internet ever. I hope someone reads it. Pipe dreams naturally but reality blows, suck it down.

Muslim solidarity reigns supreme.

Yes, the Arab Sunni and Persian Shia are inseparable. If you think the Middle Eastern countries have any 'solidarity' with one another you could hardly be more mistaken. It's been that way for a long time too. They even blame their loss against the Jews in '48 on infighting between Egypt, Jordan and Syria. It is telling that they're own defense is that the Jews 'stole' Palestine because Egypt, Jordan and Syria were too busy fighting amongst themselves over which parts they themselves should 'steal'.

The Jews wouldn't even have had the opportuntity to steal palestinian land had not the English occupied it beforehand.

Trolling? Both Arabs and Jews had lived in Palestine long before the British came along. You can't blame the civil war that the Arab's lost solely on the British.

Secondly, I can't see any racism in the quote you provided (didn't click the link cause you never know these days, could land me in guantanamo, ironic since we're talking about recently stolen land

Well, I went did and the men haven't come for me yet. I'll even go ahead and condemn Gitmo as an affront to humanity. I'll even dare say Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for numerous crimes around failing to extend fundamental human rights to prisoners. I'm not afraid anyone is gonna send me off to Gitmo for saying that, you needn't be either.

You can't see the racism because you apparently don't consider the murder or removal of all Jewish people from Israel/Palestine as racism.

Why were Jews relocated to Palestine folowing WWII?

Go find a real history book and read it. Your statement reveals that you have not heard anything but the worst and most racist form of revisionist history. Even Al Jazeera recognize that the Jews were not 'relocated' following WWII. I don't even think Hamas and Hezbollah deny that the Jewish population in Palestine in 1900 was considerable, and that the growth in population during WWII was based on the Jews fleeing Europe. Hamas and Hezbollah also don't deny that the Jew's 'theft' of the land was the result of a civil war. Their only contention is that the Jews were the aggressors in the civil war, and that the Jews would have lost the war against the superior Arab armies but for the fact that the Jews were backed by all-powerful imperialist empires.

Anyway, if it isn't clear, I'm on the Palesininan side of this debate but I feel free from any accusations of bias since I am neither a Muslim, Jew or Zionist Christian. I'm just male, middle class and white like the song but I think I have a solution if you would just hear me out.

...compensate Israeli folk for their relocation to Europe, North America, Australia, anywhere really that could accomodate for Isarelies culturaly.

A comment with this in it gets an up-vote? Seriously?

I am neither a Muslim, Jew or Zionist Christian.
I can believe that, you sound old school German in point of fact.