Few men can kick as well as females... damn your additional space in the hip joints and extra oestrogen.


I think you have a very odd definition of the quality of a kick in martial arts. To me, something like this is what a high kick should look like. To me, "kicking well" is proportional to the speed and accuracy with which a kick can be executed, the power that can be brought to bear, and the ability to recover or transition quickly after the kick.

I'm not trying to rain on this parade really, and certainly some of what's going on there is impressive... it's just I don't understand why they're doing this as a "martial arts" thing when clearly what they're doing is gymnastics. There is nothing wrong with gymnastics (or parkour or lots of other things). And some of this stuff would be a good precursor to martial arts skills - but it's hard to think of this kind of thing as martial arts.

Martial Art is just that. Art.

Kicking, in my experience has never been very practical however; front kicks, and kicks that attack the opponents legs are definitely useful.

But that's why gunpowder caught on.

>> ^jmzero:

Few men can kick as well as females... damn your additional space in the hip joints and extra oestrogen.

I think you have a very odd definition of the quality of a kick in martial arts. To me, something like this is what a high kick should look like. To me, "kicking well" is proportional to the speed and accuracy with which a kick can be executed, the power that can be brought to bear, and the ability to recover or transition quickly after the kick.
I'm not trying to rain on this parade really, and certainly some of what's going on there is impressive... it's just I don't understand why they're doing this as a "martial arts" thing when clearly what they're doing is gymnastics. There is nothing wrong with gymnastics (or parkour or lots of other things). And some of this stuff would be a good precursor to martial arts skills - but it's hard to think of this kind of thing as martial arts.


There are kicks and then there are kicks. If you can kick that high in slow motion and/or repeatedly like these women can, then you can kick fast and hard at those heights once. If you have that much active dynamic flexibility the sky is the limit. Just because they only showcase a portion of their skill doesn't mean that they can't kick faster, harder and better than cro cop... "Show kicks" are much harder to perform than "fight kicks" as they demand so much more from your balance and skill. In the same way that a proper cross punch demands a lot more from the puncher than a haymaker does.

There is a big difference between kicking for effect and kicking to show technique. However, if you don't have good technique you can't get good effect as you lose too much power fighting your own body.

There are kicks and then there are kicks. If you can kick that high in slow motion and/or repeatedly like these women can, then you can kick fast and hard at those heights once.


Well, not really. The techniques are very different. One might as well say that if they have this much flexibility, and can do something this hard, that they would be great at kicking field goals. It doesn't matter which is harder or that they both involve moving your foot around - it's completely different skills with completely different goals and measures.

Look at what their hips are doing. Look at what their arms are doing. It's all wrong - they're generating no power (and - to be fair - they can't, because to do so without hitting something would mean they couldn't balance and obviously you need a lot of balance to do these gymnastic runs). But, in the end, the only commonality between a proper martial arts kick and what they're doing is that their foot ends up moving from one place to another.

Could these people also be capable of kicking something hard in a martial arts way? Of course. In fact, I'm sure most of them are pretty good at it. But it's two very different skills and the skill they're demonstrating here is gymnastics.

Just because they only showcase a portion of their skill doesn't mean that they can't kick faster, harder and better than cro cop


Well, yes. Just because they can do this stuff doesn't mean they can't kick faster, harder and better than Crocop. Similarly, my excellent Videosift posting skills do not prove I'm not the world's best hot dog eater. Odds are I'm not though. Regardless of odds (and we pretty much just dealing with odds, because the skills they're showing here are just not that relevant), in this case, we do have other relevant evidence that these women aren't kicking harder than Crocop. Again, regardless of their horrible mechanics (which can be excused by the techniques they're executing), just look at their legs. These women are not capable, just in sheer muscular presence, of generating the same force Crocop does.

I'm sure you have an interesting treatise on how muscle mass doesn't correlate with the force that can be generated by that muscle. If you post something like that, please do not feel insulted when I do not respond to it.

Whenever I kick a person in the jaw, their first reaction is always to protect their groin.

i agree with the above, these are showkicks. all you see here is bitchslaps with the feet instead of hands. but impressive gymnastics.

heres some kicks that hurt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5iTWCwlZyM

or even this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrzNX5qZ3c&feature=related

look at the hips, they rotate!

san shou folks really like their side kicks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN9WKtt8Ork

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Oh *80s for the music.

http://videosift.com/video/Shes-got-legs for that music video I just promoted.

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Seriously, what the hell is with the epileptic flashing disco lights in the background? Are they doing martial arts or some weird new form of dancing?

*skillful

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