Why the News Isn't Really the News

Uploader Description: 'Ryan Holiday, the author of, "Trust Me, I'm Lying," shares a bit about how he has manipulated media to get bogus, anonymous stories to the front-page of news media outlets. He wonders if many of our news stories can even be trusted because the system by which news outlets pick up their stories is flawed. In fact, the news may not really be the news at all.

We interviewed Ryan Holiday to find out more. The epiphany? If you're not paying for a product online, then you ARE the product.'
yellowcsays...

Even if you are paying for it, there's always more money to be made.

You need a publicly funded company that truly does not rely on any outside source except taxpayers and is strictly and forever forbidden to show a single ad. It's just so damn hard to not be corrupt though.

The second your outlets relies on any sort of metric to survive, like page views, the majority of your efforts simply must go towards increasing that metric, there is no other choice, staying in business is not a simple thing to do.

VoodooVsays...

yeah I gotta agree with @yellowc. paying for a news site doesn't give news sites much more incentive to be truthful and more integrity.

This is the sort of thing that makes me in favor of state run media, but that has a completely different set of pitfalls and high potential of corruption. My only hope about state run media is that at least it would be answerable to taxpayers instead of shareholders. If we didn't have so many low information voters and we had higher voter participation, I'd like to think state run media could work but yeah, I acknowledge that I'm just being wishful and realistically it wouldn't work.

so private news organizations: susceptible to sensationalism and private agendas. State run news: susceptible to simply becoming propaganda.

So what's the solution? How do you incentivise being factual and removing bias, or at the very least identify bias easily. Even biased news can be useful IMO as long as that bias is clearly known and open to criticism and counter arguments.

The biggest pet peeve I have with media is the mentality that every issue has 2 and only 2 ways of looking at it and they're both equally likely because current news media thrives on manufactured controversy. One side typically has more evidence than the other, yet it's presented as if both sides are equally plausible.

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