http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=41c_1218302783

Some one explain exactly why Russia is attacking Georgia?

Because they are a upping their military so that they can join NATO?

Dude, I know you're American, but just about every European news outlet is running the story.

Back to the video, I have to say, this makes me sick, the last thing the world needs is a sequel to chechnya, what disgusts me more is the fact the Russian population doesn't seem to care, and from a military standpoint they have nothing to worry about because Russian military > Georgian military, so he chance of a attack by georgia on Russian soil is some where between nil and zero.

Now for the lowdown as I have heard it, basically georgia functions as a sovereign state and all that, but there is a breakaway region that ignores national borders of Ossetia, with south Ossetia in georgia and the north in Russia, but both parts of Ossetia officially belong to their respective states.

This is where the water gets a little murky, Russia claims amongst other things that georgia was committing genocide in south ossetia, and that they had an obligation to the south Ossetians to protect them. The Georgians claim that Russia's attack was an unprovoked invasion.

So this is the point we are at currently, with Georgia declaring a state of war on Russia, while angling for a ceasefire/end to hostilities, and Russia quite clearly attacking civilians as you can see in the videos that are already appearing on the sift.

I am not one to usually jump the gun, but what the heck, I would place Russia in the wrong here, since some reports place Georgian dead at around 2000 people, and the way their country is run almost as a dictatorship by any other name.

thats right 4 camra men stand around taking photographs of the old lady with her face fucked up and a woman on the flor burnt. i mean fair enoughf film it for the news and to get it out there but it dosenot take 4 people to film and take photographs. what a bunch of cunts

if your filming war and its like bombs going off and crap happaning all around your fair enoughf but if your in a cavilain situatoin where people (non combatents) right in front of you are hurt you should help out

I did a report for college on Chechen Republic. These guys have been at defacto war with russia since the mid 1800. They have been fighting for so long I bet they dont know what started the war. Other than the fact that Chechnya wanted autonomy.

It's good to see that Russia knows how to deal with genocide. I'm sure the Georgian government will think twice about that shit now that innocent civilians have been killed.

Hey, who's to say it's not a pre-emptive strike against Georgia to stop them from funding terrorists and build a secret WMD program?
The Iraqi civilians aren't better off, and they've lived like that for several years now due to their invaders. Where's the outrage for their plight?

It's so easy to pick on Russia, after all. They're not the good guys, right?

>> ^westy:
thats right 4 camra men stand around taking photographs of the old lady with her face fucked up and a woman on the flor burnt. i mean fair enoughf film it for the news and to get it out there but it dosenot take 4 people to film and take photographs. what a bunch of cunts
if your filming war and its like bombs going off and crap happaning all around your fair enoughf but if your in a cavilain situatoin where people (non combatents) right in front of you are hurt you should help out


Where you drunk when you wrote this?

Pretty disturbing. I'll bet anything there was a way to solve this aside from bombing the hell out of people, but military boys have to play with their toys.

"It's so easy to pick on Russia, after all. They're not the good guys, right?"

Lol, there is no such thing as the "good guys". There is nothing but varying shades of black where power exists.

"fucking disgusting. fuck this fucking russia."

that was the reaction of my ethnically russian girlfriend. just so you don't go hating on all russians after this.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
Some one explain exactly why Russia is attacking Georgia?
Because they are a upping their military so that they can join NATO?


look at where the fossil fuel deposits are, and where the rich europeans are, and draw a line between them. That line is called Georgia.

>> ^westy:
thats right 4 camra men stand around taking photographs of the old lady with her face fucked up and a woman on the flor burnt. i mean fair enoughf film it for the news and to get it out there but it dosenot take 4 people to film and take photographs. what a bunch of cunts
if your filming war and its like bombs going off and crap happaning all around your fair enoughf but if your in a cavilain situatoin where people (non combatents) right in front of you are hurt you should help out


you shouldn't judge a situation like that from a highly edited bunch of fast cuts.
and a war photographer once explained to me that he wouldn't be there unless he was photographing, so he is theoretically not there. Also, it would be unjournalistic to intervene. If your logic was followed, all war photographers would instantly be rendered medics as soon as they touched down at the airport.

interesting that you dedicated your entire post to calling the people who brought you the information "cunts"... but you didn't criticise the people who ordered the bombing.

you just shot the messenger. who's the cunt?

>> ^MINK:
>> line is called Georgia.


so its all about oil, they are at it again.

yes.

here's my take on the "cunts" filming this tragedy.

http://www.videosift.com/video/James-Nachtwey-on-the-Ethics-of-War-Photography

The thing with South Osettia (SO) is that their seperatists had been shelling Georgian villages for a couple of days before Georgians intervened with their bombardment & troops. After that, Russian forces, which had already been amassed on the border a month or so before that, immediately entered SO - airstrikes, tanks, you name it.

Now why Russia did that is probably unclear to most people that your side of the pond. They're saying they're protecting their "compatriots", a label Kremlin propaganda seems to be throwing around without exhaustion these days, from an aggressive state (Georgia), while Russia for the past couple of years has actually been handing out citizenship and Russian passports to anyone they could in SO (which is constitutionally a part of Georgia) - seems now they did that to just be able to invade.

>> ^Kerotan:
Dude, I know you're American, but just about every European news outlet is running the story.
Back to the video, I have to say, this makes me sick, the last thing the world needs is a sequel to chechnya, what disgusts me more is the fact the Russian population doesn't seem to care, and from a military standpoint they have nothing to worry about because Russian military > Georgian military, so he chance of a attack by georgia on Russian soil is some where between nil and zero.
Now for the lowdown as I have heard it, basically georgia functions as a sovereign state and all that, but there is a breakaway region that ignores national borders of Ossetia, with south Ossetia in georgia and the north in Russia, but both parts of Ossetia officially belong to their respective states.
This is where the water gets a little murky, Russia claims amongst other things that georgia was committing genocide in south ossetia, and that they had an obligation to the south Ossetians to protect them. The Georgians claim that Russia's attack was an unprovoked invasion.
So this is the point we are at currently, with Georgia declaring a state of war on Russia, while angling for a ceasefire/end to hostilities, and Russia quite clearly attacking civilians as you can see in the videos that are already appearing on the sift.
I am not one to usually jump the gun, but what the heck, I would place Russia in the wrong here, since some reports place Georgian dead at around 2000 people, and the way their country is run almost as a dictatorship by any other name.

@ MINK

"you shouldn't judge a situation like that from a highly edited bunch of fast cuts.
and a war photographer once explained to me that he wouldn't be there unless he was photographing, so he is theoretically not there. Also, it would be unjournalistic to intervene. If your logic was followed, all war photographers would instantly be rendered medics as soon as they touched down at the airport.

interesting that you dedicated your entire post to calling the people who brought you the information "cunts"... but you didn't criticise the people who ordered the bombing."

i didnot comment on the bombing been tardish as killing people and all that is so obvously negative and stupid that it wouldnt benofit me drawing atentoin to it

allso if you r there you r there evan if you r only there because you decided to be there to take photographs, you might decide you r fighting a war on a bigger scale and your photographs will have a net result of saving more people. but i did make the piont that if there was just 1 guy taking picks it might be a bit difrent its the fact that u have 4 people ore so all filming the same thing.

anny semi decent person would take a photo for the story and then get to work helping out , unless there were a bunch of people alredy helping .

the woman in the ruble obvously could have done with a hug as noone was there helping her out