Ram Dass, on "Experience"

rougysays...

That makes so much sense to me.

He's not saying "You have to believe me." Or "There is a God according to my definitions and you must believe in Him (or you're being stubborn)." He's not saying that we'll burn for eternity if we don't agree with him. He's not saying that he's going to Heaven because of the way he thinks.

There is no fear, or guilt, or control in the observations that he shares.

johnald128says...

erm, thing is he's absolutely wrong, he could have at least reworded it so it made some philosophical and scientific sense.
you see, we really are in the same universe, if two people start running and don't look where they're going, if there's a brick wall in the way in 'this' universe, regardless of their attention - they'd both still slam into it.

and before anyone comes back with a counter-point, nope, i know what he's 'trying' say but he doesn't say that.

rougysays...

>> ^johnald128:
erm, thing is he's absolutely wrong, he could have at least reworded it so it made some philosophical and scientific sense.
you see, we really are in the same universe, if two people start running and don't look where they're going, if there's a brick wall in the way in 'this' universe, regardless of their attention - they'd both still slam into it.
and before anyone comes back with a counter-point, nope, i know what he's 'trying' say but he doesn't say that.


Yeah, he pretty much did.

We are in "this" universe, you and I, but I can never truly know your universe, nor can you ever truly know mine. That's what he's saying. That our world is subjective. My center is different from your center. Our needs shape our points of view.

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