This is the definition of propaganda.
This is not the man you may be voting for.

This is awesome footage but the way you characterize it in your summary is awful and not worthy of his suffering.

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If only being a POW was a good prerequisite for being President. Far as I can tell, being a POW qualifies you to be a bonefide hero and I don't think any left-leaning sifter, even the most hippie liberal among us, would disagree.

However, being a hero doesn't necessarily improve judgment, doesn't necessarily make you a good orator, and while it probably should improve the steadfastness of character, in Mr. McCain's case, it did not: McCain is very changeable as is exemplified by comparing his positions in 2008 to those of 2000.

So you see, we're looking at all the factors.

It's not like all of us are seething with hatred for McCain. Sure, such a scenario makes selling this video much much easier for you but it's not quite accurate. We all recognize that McCain suffered, however, we look for more than that in our Presidents, capice?

so is this really mccain mccain? i dont trust the internet so much.

if it is, it would be quite an interesting vid.

He's not getting my vote in November, but I'll up vote this video.

Why would a POW is considered a hero? I would say POW´s are just poor souls with a terrible streak of luck.

^ It's an excellent question, G-bar. Let me tell you why.

Short of dying or losing a limb, being a POW is probably the biggest sacrifice a soldier can make for his country. The debate about Vietnam is pretty much over by now (except if you're George W. Bush, who recently theorized that we lost that war because we didn't stay long enough <rolls eyes>) but soldiers on the ground doing the actual fighting are generally not privy to these highfalutin debates. Maybe they're more aware today but media messages of the 60s were not as ubiquitous.

But even being aware of these debates isn't very important. America going to war, for good reasons or bad, requires people willing to do some fighting. This generally is the precept behind the phrase "I'm against the war but I'm for the troops." The reason this distinction exists is because we are acknowledging that soldiers do not make policy. We are also acknowledging the good intentions of the soldier.

So they're heroes not because they were "unlucky." They're heroes because they sacrificed for their country and it doesn't matter that Vietnam turned out to be the enormous mess that it did. Or Iraq.

So I don't have a problem at all referring to John McCain as a hero. Despite this, my vote goes to Obama.

The definition of an "American Hero" apparently is very different than the traditional definition of hero.

He didn't seem remarkably brave. He didn't seem admirable by displaying outstanding qualities or achievements. He isn't the main character in a fictional plot. He doesn't have super powers. And most importantly, he's not a sandwich.

Awful description.

I really want to downvote just for the description, but I'll just no-vote.

Bitterly accusing others of being bitter? Interesting tactic.

>> ^shuac:
^ It's an excellent question, G-bar. Let me tell you why.
Short of dying or losing a limb, being a POW is probably the biggest sacrifice a soldier can make for his country. The debate about Vietnam is pretty much over by now (except if you're George W. Bush, who recently theorized that we lost that war because we didn't stay long enough <rolls eyes>) but soldiers on the ground doing the actual fighting are generally not privy to these highfalutin debates. Maybe they're more aware today but media messages of the 60s were not as ubiquitous.
But even being aware of these debates isn't very important. America going to war, for good reasons or bad, requires people willing to do some fighting. This generally is the precept behind the phrase "I'm against the war but I'm for the troops." The reason this distinction exists is because we are acknowledging that soldiers do not make policy. We are also acknowledging the good intentions of the soldier.
So they're heroes not because they were "unlucky." They're heroes because they sacrificed for their country and it doesn't matter that Vietnam turned out to be the enormous mess that it did. Or Iraq.
So I don't have a problem at all referring to John McCain as a hero. Despite this, my vote goes to Obama.


I have mixed feelings on what you just said. As an Israeli, and as a soldier myself, I´ve had the ¨pleasure¨ of fighting for my country. Luckily for me, I did not get caught as a POW, unlike some other guys... one especially is still being held in the Gaza strip.
Would you call him a hero? i would call him a poor soul - He did not sign up for this... When he got recruted, he never imagined himself imprisoned, and if so, he KNEW that his country would back him up, and do whatever it can to rescue him, as is promised to every each of us Israelis.
Unfortunately, that is not that case. He is still rotting in wherever they hold him for 2 years now, all because of beaurocracy far too complicated for a silly man like me.
You can call soldiers heroes, you can call them freedom fighters or you can call them terrorists... It doesn´t matter... but when your´e an imprisoned soldier, well - your´e just very very unlucky.

BTW - If I could vote, I would have voted Obami mami as well

As an Israeli, and as a soldier myself, I´ve had the ¨pleasure¨ of fighting for my country. Luckily for me, I did not get caught as a POW, unlike some other guys... one especially is still being held in the Gaza strip.

BTW - If I could vote, I would have voted Obami mami as well


To my understanding, the whole Gaza Strip is being held in the Gaza Strip. Perhaps that's neither here nor there... regardless, i wish your friend safe release.

And was that 'Obami mami' slang tongue in cheek?

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