Is the point here to show how misleading and offensive this is, or to take something mediamatters.org highlighted as misleading and offensive and try to perpetuate it?

Do you really think giving a political speech in front of lots of people makes you a Nazi? Usually acceptance speeches happen before crowds of 20,000 or so. What's the cutoff number for Nazification?

Does that mean Martin Luther King became a Nazi for his I Have a Dream speech, which he gave before 200,000 people?

How do you think this event will be percieved around the world?

Moving the venue to a football ground and filling it with 75,000 'adoring fans' does have the whiff of fanatacism about it.

I'm sure many Europeans will see this event echoing 1930s Germany.

I think it's right that this be raised and discussed. Obama's speech in Israel followed by this event is sending out a very particular type of message.

It's not about what I personally think, it's about the alarm bells that this kind of stunt rings around the rest of the world. It's about perception.

Yes, germans just love flocking around foreign politicians by the tens of thousands in Berlin and cheering them on. Hitler, Kennedy, Obama. Must mean they're all peas in a pod, since it's _germans_ flocking and cheering, right?

(That grinding sound you're hearing right now? That's my eyes rolling.)

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

I didn't know that eyes rolling made a noise. What's it sound like? Is it similar to a Henway?

Arrr, matey. I dinna ken what a Henway be, but these here be my two wooden eyes. Lost me real ones at Trenton. Got to keep them in me head with 100 grain sandpaper, hence grinding when rolling.

The coronation of King Obama.

>> ^Irishman:
How do you think this event will be percieved around the world?
Moving the venue to a football ground and filling it with 75,000 'adoring fans' does have the whiff of fanatacism about it.
I'm sure many Europeans will see this event echoing 1930s Germany.
I think it's right that this be raised and discussed. Obama's speech in Israel followed by this event is sending out a very particular type of message.
It's not about what I personally think, it's about the alarm bells that this kind of stunt rings around the rest of the world. It's about perception.


So to my original point, normally nomination acceptance speeches are given before a crowd of 20,000...why is adding 55,000 more people nefarious?

Don't things like torture, ignoring habeas corpus, domestic spying, propaganda, consolidating power, and open flirtation with starting a war with Iran send a bigger message?

We've got an election where McCain is endorsing all of those things either overtly in his rhetoric, or tacitly by refusing to vote against them, and Obama speaks out about ending all of the above, and votes against it when he has the opportunity.

Given that, shouldn't Europeans be more concerned that there's still a pretty significant chance McCain could win, not because Obama plans to give a speech before a crowd less than half the size of the one he attracted in Germany?

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