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This is a great ad. I just wish MoveOn would've setup a seperate 527, using a different name. The name MoveOn doesn't carry much weight with non-progressives. And in most circumstances, is a big red-flag.

^ good point.

This strikes me as dangerous ground... I don't trust McCain at all... but are you telling me Obama or any politicians hands are completely free of lobbyists?... not sure i can accept that either.

>> ^Januari:
but are you telling me Obama or any politicians hands are completely free of lobbyists?...


"completely free" and completely surrounded by, are two vastly different things.

I hope your right darlin' i really do... Don't get me wrong I agree there really isn't any comparision...

>> ^Januari:
This strikes me as dangerous ground... I don't trust McCain at all... but are you telling me Obama or any politicians hands are completely free of lobbyists?... not sure i can accept that either.


Obama has had plenty of dealings with lobbyists, that's a safe bet. Biden, too. I don't think he's considered the darling of K Street to the extent that McGrampa is.

Isn't Phil Gramm basically the architect of that financial deregulation that led to this whole subprime mess -- allowing securitization and MBOs?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9246.html

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Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, who was the chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities & Investment industry.[6]

On July 18, 2008 Gramm stepped down from his position with the McCain campaign. However, he often accompanies McCain during the campaign, and continues to be an unofficial adviser on economic and financial matters.[16]