He clearly says,"Of course, of course." It comes out like "uh-korsha...korsh," because of the way John McCain talks.

It's still funny, though. Just concentrate on Horseshi*t and it sounds like it.




[edit] ...and the official transcripts say "Of Course."

You shouldn't be so quick to deny he said that. If they'd call each other on their horseshit a little more audibly maybe we could have had a real debate. But no we had two guys talking to Jim Lehrer who was desperately trying to get them to call each other on their shit. Problem is that they're too well trained in debating where you're not supposed to confront your opposition. While I don't want to see a debate spiral down into an O'Reilly interview with people screaming over the top of the person with the valid point, I would like to see these debates become more of a contest than just a series of soundbites. I'd like to have a town hall debate where people can ask any question not just filtered ones like those stupid You Tube debates, or the other town hall debates that are full of plants. Things like what's more important, protecting Americans from terrorism (<10,000 deaths in the last 20 years) or giving all Americans health care (>100,000 deaths a year)? When you break it down to simple economics, our society is broken, when people would rather spend trillions of dollars to avenge the deaths of 3500 people, but won't raise taxes on cigarettes to prices so high that people won't want to smoke saving more than 400,000 lives a year.

>> ^deedub81:
He clearly says,"Of course, of course." It comes out like "uh-korsha...korsh," because of the way John McCain talks.
It's still funny, though. Just concentrate on Horseshi t and it sounds like it.


[edit] ...and the official transcripts say "Of Course."


I saw that too before posting this, but then that's even better -- McCain is saying "of course" he said he wouldn't meet with the President of Spain?

Horseshit makes more sense because frankly, the bit about Spain is exactly that: horseshit. In that interview McCain just didn't understand what he'd been asked, and rather than ask the interviewer to clarify, he gave a generic answer that implied he might not be willing to meet with the President of Spain.

The ghouls on his campaign initially said that was correct -- McCain would not meet with Zapatero, though they quickly reversed that and gave the "she had an accent, and he didn't understand" explanation.

Of course, that means he's so prideful he wouldn't ask for a clarification, even if it meant saying some indeterminate country was potentially in the same class as Venezuela, which is pretty horseshitty.

^ you need to focus your rant a little more. Its like a very dull knife you've got there

I think he was anticipating what Obama was going to say. In other words, he was saying 'of course' to the fact that Spain is an ally.

>> ^NinjaFish:
^ you need to focus your rant a little more. Its like a very dull knife you've got there


Seems fairly sharp to me, son.

>> ^NetRunner:
In that interview McCain just didn't understand what he'd been asked

I presume you heard the interview sited, the interviewer did clarify, McCain just had no idea what his response should be, so he went generic. The day late spin from his campaign doesn't really fix the fact that Mr. "International policy experience" could not identify Spain as an ally when asked twice with clarification, by someone whose accent was not very thick.

Obama's claim, that McCain didn't seem to know, is accurate, it may not be particularly important, as the pres does not spend much time scheduling for meeting allies, so you could certainly argue it was a cheap triviality, like the seal comment, but it's not untrue.

This is silly. There are far better issues to attack him on, we don't need to make them up.

Very silly indeed. Why does anyone want to waste time on this?

>> ^vermonter:
Very silly indeed. Why does anyone want to waste time on this?


yeah. THIS is horseshit. i don't care if they use bad language. they probably do in private. so what?

in ireland our equvalent of 'president' is commonly referred to as BIFFO (big ignorant fucker from offaly) and he himself often uses profanity to get his point across.. and recently apologized to the opposition party for referring to them as "those fuckers" during a debate cuz it was picked up by the microphone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cowen#Quotations

no one really cares tho. much more important problems to solve.

Personally I was pretty bummed out by the debates.

I was hoping to see Obama just rip McCain in two, but that didn't happen.

And at the end, Obama started saying some pretty conservative horseshit of his own, which just makes me want to get out of the USA even more.

I can't help but feel that this election is a lose/lose proposition for progressives.

>> ^Sketch:
This is silly. There are far better issues to attack him on, we don't need to make them up.


As much as I love the anti-McCain stuff, I just thought it was a funny clip, and even more fun to watch people take sides for/against it.