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Kimbo Slice versus Ray Mercer

Kimbos MMA Debut on June 23rd, 2007. He fights former heavy weight champion of the world Ray Mercer. This is not pretty to see.
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Former heavyweight champ in boxing. This is really a fight with a competent boxer and mediocre MMA fighter versus a formerly excellent boxer (he's 46, well past his prime, and giving up more than 10 years on Kimbo) and shitty MMA fighter (i.e. next to no training in MMA). Definitely one of the most embarassing matchups in recent pro-MMA history.

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Nonetheless, before the fight, everyone had reached a consensus that Kimbo can only beatup bums on the street, this shows that he's not just a one trick pony but can fight with some of the best. Even though Ray is old and looks kind of flappy in the video, he must pack a mean punch, strong enough to put the lights out of most mortals/high level amateur boxers, and seeing how Kimbo treats him like a rag doll, I think he's well on his way up.

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Mercer is not "one of the best". He had basically no training in grappling or MMA, meaning he was a can in this fight. Anybody who knew anything about MMA called the outcome of this fight as soon as it was announced. Hell, Mercer didn't even know enough pull guard when he hit the ground, he just flopped around like a fish out of water. Even when Kimbo got the guillotine, he caught it from butt-scoot, without leg control, and Mercer moved into the single worst position for himself. A one-stripe WB BJJer could have passed to side control with that weak-ass crap, but, unfortunately, Mercer doesn't have the skill of a one-striper.

Kimbo is a semi-decent boxer, with a modicum of grappling skills. Wow, a guy with a bit of grappling training took out a guy with no grappling training, how unexpected! Color me unimpressed. Kimbo's never going anywhere in good pro MMA. He's a sideshow, like the guys they have doing freak-show fights in K-1 Hero. He's Bob Sapp without the funny Japanese gameshow appearances. The only reason I don't think he's an outright joke is the fact that El Guapo has seen fit to lend an ounce of his brilliance to the guy.

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I see that you have quite a bit of MMA knowledge, rembar. I guess time will only tell if Kimbo is a great fighter, they cancelled the fight with him and Tank Abbott so it will be a while before we see him in a professional fight. I wouldn't compare him to Bob Sapp though, Bob's all muscles with no stamina, after a minute of every fight he looks like he's going to pass out with his heavy breathing. There's something about Kimbo, more then just the skills he has(or lack of) (punches, muay thai kicks, grappling holds) he has no sense of fear or hesitation that you see in other fighters, he's almost like Iron Mike of the 80s (for me anyways).

rembarsays...

You're right, I didn't mean to compare Kimbo to Sapp physically or skillwise, sorry if I was unclear about that. To clarify, I think Kimbo is like Sapp in that both are allowed to fight in pro MMA because of the entertainment they offer as personalities, not as skilled fighters.

I guess I can see where Kimbo has the "ImmagonnalaysomepaindownonyabrothagetreadycuzitstimeforHULKAMANIABABY" attitude down pretty well, but I really question whether this is the result of strength of character or whether he has yet to have had the fear of God put into his soul via the 4-ouncers of a truly dangerous fighter.

P.S. I'm guessing you already know about him, but if you want to see a really gritty, excellent fighter, Mirko Crocop, regardless of his latest performances, stands out in my mind as a truly intimidating fighter. It's not so much only that's he's a scarily good striker, but the fact that he fights with the attitude of "Ok, you might hit me, and you might take me down, but sooner or later I'm going to find a place to put my foot or shin and more likely than not that place will be between your ears, and it's not coming out until I SAY it does."

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