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uhohzombiessays..."The two politicians are friends - Patrick has accompanied Obama on the campaign trail before and, according to news sources, Patrick has since gone on the record via statement, defending Obama.
“Sen. Obama and I are longtime friends and allies. We often share ideas about politics, policy and language. The argument in question, on the value of words in the public square, is one about which he and I have spoken frequently before. Given the recent attacks from Sen. Clinton, I applaud him [for] responding in just the way he did."
The story then goes on to point out several instances where Hillary Clinton did the exact thing to Obama, taking words from his speeches and using them in her own.
From Faux News no less:
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/18/he-said-he-said-did-obama-plagiarize-mass-gov-deval-patrick/
LeadingZerosays..."I am neither surprised nor troubled that he used the words that I asked him to use of my own," Deval Patrick said in an interview Tuesday on ABC's "Good Morning America." "I think it's a sad comment on the state of the race and the state of our politics that the Clinton campaign is taking this particular tact."
If there's any news here, it's that the Clinton campaign is resorting to especially aggressive tactics when feeling threatened. And is that really news?
joedirtsays...Watch the interview here:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Deval_Patrick_I_asked_Obama_to_0219.html
Gov Patrick at the same time says it's not a big deal, but then goes on to describe how words are all powerful and end up on monuments (meaning they should be your beliefs and not a stolen speech).
The dirty little secret to all of this is that Obama is using Patrick's old campaign speech writer. It's really hilarious how much is showbiz and speech writers, but people assume that Clinton, Bush, Obama come up with any of it.
Farhad2000says...Real hard to find something negative to say about Obama... first it was the Rezko long shot and now this... heh.
Tofumarsays...^ Agreed. People are grasping at straws.
Fedquipsays...This has been the only obama news I have heard in the past 24hrs, they are really trying to find something, some are talking like this "scandal" will kill his campaign.
Wish some news outlet would bring this old Hillary story back to light.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0312-01.htm
siftbotsays...Moving this video to joedirt's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 3 days.
choggiesays...*promote
siftbotsays...choggie cannot promote this post because choggie does not have enough Power Points.
choggiesays...bullshit, shizbotz..
*promote
siftbotsays...Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued - promote requested by choggie.
quantumushroomsays...Here's some questions for both Dem frontrunners, via columnist Lawrence Elder. Why does the mainstream media focus on this fluff while issues with real impact go unaddressed?
Don't Obama supporters also deserve straight answers?
As of March 2008, kids applying for a job at Burger King have been given tougher interview questions (+ a drug test) than Clintobama.
1. Sen. Clinton, you oppose the Bush tax cuts because they unfairly benefit the rich. Since the top 1 percent of taxpayers -- those making more than $364,000 annually -- pay 39 percent of all federal income taxes, don't all across-the-board tax cuts, by definition, "unfairly" benefit the rich?
2. Sen. Obama, you also oppose Bush tax cuts, and claim that they take money away from the Treasury. But President Kennedy signed across-the-board tax cuts in the 1960s and said, "It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low -- and the soundest way to raise revenues in the long run is to cut rates now." Was he wrong?
3. Sen. Clinton, you criticize President Bush for inheriting a surplus and turning it into a deficit. The National Taxpayers Union added up your campaign promises, and they came to an increase of over $218 billion per year. What would this do to the deficit?
4. Sen. Obama, if elected, you promised to raise minimum wage every single year. But isn't it true that most economists -- 90 percent, according to one survey -- believe that raising minimum wages increases unemployment and decreases job opportunities for the most unskilled workers? What makes you right, and the majority of economists wrong?
5. Sen. Clinton, you want universal health care coverage for all Americans -- every man, woman and child. When, as First Lady, you tried to do this, 560 economists wrote President Clinton, and said, "Price controls produce shortages, black markets and reduced quality." One economist who helped gather the signatures explained, "Price controls don't control the true costs of goods. People pay in other ways." Are those 560 economists wrong?
6. Sen. Obama, you once said you understand why senators voted for the Iraq war, admitted that you were "not privy to Senate intelligence reports," that it "was a tough question and a tough call" for the senators, and that you "didn't know" how you would have voted had you been in the Senate. And over a year after the war began, you said, "There's not much of a difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage." How, then, can you say that you consistently opposed the war from the start?
7. Sen. Clinton, you want to begin withdrawing the troops within the first 60 days of your administration, with all the troops out within a year. Former Secretary of State Jim Baker of the Baker-Hamilton report said that such a precipitous withdrawal in Iraq would create a staging ground for al-Qaida, increase the influence of Iran over Iraq, and result in "the biggest civil war you've ever seen." What would you like to say to Secretary Baker?
8. Sen. Obama, the church you attend, according to its Web site, pursues an Afrocentric agenda. Your church rejects, as part of their "Black Value System," "middleclassness" as "classic methodology" of white "captors" to "control subjugated" black "captives." Your pastor, Jeremiah Wright, recently called the Nation of Islam's Minister Louis Farrakhan -- a man many consider anti-Semitic -- a person of "integrity and honesty." What would happen to a Republican candidate who attended a Caucasian-centric church, and who praised David Duke as a man of "integrity and honesty"?
9. Sen. Clinton, you recently criticized NAFTA, the free trade agreement signed into law by President Clinton. The conservative Heritage Foundation says that NAFTA-like free trade benefits the economies of the United States, Canada and Mexico, resulting in increased trade, higher U.S. exports and improved living standards for American workers. Explain how President Clinton and the Heritage Foundation got it wrong then, but that you are right now.
10. Sen. Obama, this question is about global warming, something about which you urge extreme action to fight. You criticize President Bush for going to war in Iraq, even though all 16 intelligence agencies felt with "high confidence" that Saddam Hussein possessed stockpiles of WMDs. Critics of Bush say he "cherry-picked" the intelligence. Hundreds, if not thousands, of scientists consider concerns about global warming overblown. Isn't there far more dissent among credible scientists about global warning than there was among American intelligence analysts about Iraq? If so, as to the studies on global warming, why can't you be accused of cherry-picking?
choggiesays..."The brain you stole, Fritz. Think of it. The brain of a dead man waiting to live again in a body I made with my own hands!"
-Frankenstein (1931)
choggiesays...Dr. Henry Frankenstein:
"The neck's broken. The brain is useless. We must find another brain."....lmao
(all slow on the uptake who give a damn, the above 2 jabs we're for qm's spamtacular cut-and-paste trolling)
CaptWillardsays...This story had no legs, that's why nothing came of it. The Clinton camp tried to make a big deal of it, but once it became apparent that Hillary did the same thing they clammed up. Then they were on to bigger and better smear tactics, like sending the Obama-turban picture to Drudge.
I'm not a huge fan of either. I wish either Edwards or Dodd had won the nomination. I don't care for this video because it needlessly started a smear war. I posted my Hillary-plagiarizes-Bill video in the hopes that it would end this particular story line. I'll vote for it now, in the hope that if it gets sifted then people will read the comments and see how stupid this story really is.
BillOreillysays...At least George W is entertaining when he speaks.
Obama is as dull as they come, even resorting to using other people's speeches. Sad.
dystopianfuturetodaysays...And?
dystopianfuturetodaysays...QM fallacy of the day: Begging the Question ---->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Fedquipsays...QM and Choggie, voting McCain?
It's funny how they tried to make a big story about the plagiarism, Considering Patrick and Obama are very close. I think Patrick was cool to share his speech writer.
Does this mean Hillary Plagiarized Mondale?
winkler1says..." Obama is as dull as they come"
Obama inspires, and that scares Repubs to death..thus GOTV for Hillary.
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