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PsychologicOk, Nader didn't call Obama an Uncle Tom. He was posing a hypothetical question about a possiblity, and while the term he used was racially charged and definitely a poor choice, he didn't say that Obama "is" an Uncle Tom. Perhaps the difference is trivial, but it is a difference.
Then the guy commenting on it goes on to say how it isn't ok for "white people" to say "nigger" (or perhaps "nigga"). Oh, it's ok for black people to say it? That isn't racist? Judging who can use an obscenity (which it is) based solely on the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.
In my perfect little world people would stop trying to fight racism with more racism, but I suppose we're a long way from that. This "we white people" and "us black people" crap isn't helping. If you want to beat someone up over the ideas they support then go for it, but making a distinction based on what color of light reflects off of someone's skin is just plain wrong, in every case, including in this video.
/end_rant
NetRunner^ Skinhead Ku Klux Klan cracker.
Don't get mad, that'd be racist too.
Nyah nyah.
This meme of accusing the people offended by racially charged phrases of being racist themselves is getting really fucking old.
I blame the right wing moron-squad, but they didn't invent it, I'm sure the racist Dixicrats did the same thing, back before they all became Republicans.
We're all humans, and we all know that words can hurt and offend and anger people. Nader knows what kind of a minefield he was walking into using the phrase "Uncle Tom" within 40 miles of Obama's name, and Fox gave him just what he was hoping to get: attention from someone.
We all have a skin color, and we're all part of a history that includes horrible, hateful acts committed by one race against another. It's not racism to wince when someone jabs at that still-healing wound, it's human.
Good humans don't jab at painful wounds like that. Bad humans defend the people who do.
Psychologic>> ^NetRunner:
This meme of accusing the people offended by racially charged phrases of being racist themselves is getting really fucking old.
Being offended by racially charged statements is fine. Only being offended when they come from white people is racist.
I certainly understand why Nadar's statement offended this guy. If he had said that everyone should find it offensive then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but that is not the path he chose to take in his response.
HadouKen24says...>> ^Psychologic:
Only being offended when they come from white people is racist.
No, it's not.
To say that it is, is to ignore the weight of history and the hurtful, bigoted, racist ways in which such slurs are still used. To pretend that we live in a post-racial society is to sweep under the rug the inequality and injustice that still exists.
blankfistThe ending was priceless. Thanks Nader for hurting the third party movement.
SpeveOIt was a stupid comment made by Nader, but I still judge his character based on his lifelong commitment to making the United States a better country. I'm not going to defend Ralph's comment but I am not going to celebrate the fickle anger in this video either.
Psychologic>> ^HadouKen24:
>> ^Psychologic:
Only being offended when they come from white people is racist.
No, it's not.
To say that it is, is to ignore the weight of history and the hurtful, bigoted, racist ways in which such slurs are still used. To pretend that we live in a post-racial society is to sweep under the rug the inequality and injustice that still exists.
Basing your reaction to a statement solely on the race of the person saying it isn't racism?? ... or maybe it's only racist if it's a white guy that is the one basing his opinions on race?
I fear for the future of this country. =(
thinker247I find it interesting that anybody who uses the term Uncle Tom has never read Stowe's novel. Yet another evolved pejorative to ruin discourse.
MajortomyorkeIs no one else offended by his use of the phrase "White boys"? I prefer pigmentally challenged youth, or "don't let it out in the sun, it ain't done yet"... but "White boys"? WTF man, seriously.
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