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Octopussysays...The ban is already lifted: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7262071.stm and I think there are better ways to oppose censorship than to support islam-bashing.
therealblankmansays...Octopussy:
That's a pretty serious charge you make. Just who is Islam bashing? Me for posting the video or the film-maker? And just how the hell would you know if the film is Islam-bashing? YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT AND NEITHER HAS ANYONE ELSE. IT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED YET. Apparently you would prefer that nobody would have the opportunity to view it and make up their own mind. Censorship before the fact. Good for you, there's an honest intellectual position to take.
Octopussysays...Sorry for the misunderstanding. I, of course, didn't want to accuse you of anything. And I probably shouldn't have posted such a short comment.
But I live in the Netherlands and this man is notorious for blaming muslims and the islam for anything that is wrong in this world and who, e.g., proposed to ban the Quran in the Netherlands, comparing it to Hitler's Mein Kampf .
Now, Mein Kampf is banned in the Netherlands, and I've always been against that ban. But I wouldn't campaign against such censorship by telling everybody to buy and read that book. And that is what I meant when I said I do not support this clip. I am against censorship full stop and am therefore careful about supporting someone who thinks that free speech should work for some but not for others.
Fortunately, whether or not I'll support this clip, it will still be released (even if I would downvote it ;-)).
Farhad2000says...Pakistan routes all Internet traffic centrally, so it has incredible ability to block websites. Most commonly it blocks blogspot.com for political dissenters... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Pakistan.
As for the Wilders, looks like hes a crazy far right wingnut:
A Dutch branch of the Arabic European League will present a counter-movie on the very same day. "I ask all Muslim leader to be part of this political debate and to be assertive." The Netherlands is on high alert because of the reactions of the international Muslim community after the Danish Cartoons appeared in a newspaper in 2006. The grand mufti of Syria spoke a few days ago at the European Parliament: “I ask the Dutch authorities to do something to prevent these kind of provocations of the feelings of one and a half billion Muslims. I also ask from the Dutch Muslims to be wise and to dialogue with those who want to burn their holy book. These kind of cases ask for wisdom, and not for retaliatory measures."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders
therealblankmansays...This had the potential to be interesting, but... *discard
siftbotsays...Discarding this post - discard requested by original submitter therealblankman.
Historyscopersays...Europe is going down the wrong road by stifling freedom of speech and expression. Next will be freedom of thought. At least the U.S. we got the Bill of Rights. Too bad, Western govts. generally, including the U.S. are history ignoramuses when it comes to Islam, and attempt to apply their thinking about other minorities such as Jews and blacks to them when there's no comparison. Islam is not a race or even a religion, it's a total domination mind control Borg cult that unites state, church, everything and doesn't care about anybody or anything else but itself. To permit Muslims to immigrate to the West is tantamount to cultural suicide, destroying everything it ever built. How can you catch up on the key facts of the history of Islam, its rise, spread and umpteen sects? Try the Historyscoper's free Quick History of Islam for History Ignoramuses at http://go.to/islamhistory
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