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Chomsky & Trivers discuss deception

Chomsky and Trivers (an evolutionary biologist) discuss the workings of deception and self-deception. One of the few interviews with Chomsky in which he links his two main interests: politics and linguistics.
pipp3355says...

brilliant. brilliant. brilliant.

despite the shitness of final year in an undergraduate degree leaving a resounding bad taste in my mouth this discussion single handedly has got me wet for more academia and a career which actually makes an important difference. fuck all these call centre zombie jobs i'm applying for! from now on i'm just going for jobs that would actually satisfy and challenge me and leave me with a responsible platform from which i can actively engage in social change. assuming i live until 70 i have about 16,700 days left. fuck spending those days doing some transitionary 'lets sit back and numb-out while i make some plans for my life' corporate whore job. shit, i even cut my hair for that crap. selling out is bullshit.

cue choggie!

choggiesays...

Man, look at Noam. Trapped in a world he never made, but found a way to make a world for himself, within it. He is cool, calm, mellow, reserved, loved, hated, lauded, lampooned, and right, most of the time. If he ain't, he adjusts. Surrounded by tools like Trivers, who have yet to find their souls, or heads from hole in the ground...and he keeps going like the Energizer® fucking bunny!

Goals, meditation, and lust,
the 3 r's.

cheshirepusssays...

While doing call-center work is on par with working in the mines, and more education is never bad, the myth that what you do for a living defines you is just that, a myth. There is a lot of good you can do with the money you make or the free time you have. I have a corporate job, but I can do it while being a positive influence in the world. I do have to compensate for my contribution to evil corporates, but at least I don't waste the time I have left being one of their cow-consumers. Selling out is bullshit, but it does give you some freedom to do other things.
And why is Trivers a tool? He seems ok. His papers are interesting, and even our god Chomsky doesn't seem to mind him. So to slam him seems a little like ranting.

choggiesays...

Bit of rant and more a study of body language, and the words that come out of his mouth-he is half-assed listening to Noam, all the while preparing for...his tunnel. His mannerisms are spasmodic, as have been his flights of fancy from this to that and back(career)-Not saying he is not intelligent, just not as self-aware as the cool cucumber, NC.

That leadin comment, as he becomes absorbed in the emotion of his thought, detracts from the interview/discussion...(hell, i better find a miror to say that to!)

Anyhow, I took the time to bone-up on Trivers.....a real piece a work, more like a University troll, extolled for his psudo-brilliance...like most experts, held in great esteeme, by colleges of a similar ilk.....head can't catch up to his ass.....

cheshirepusssays...

So because he is good at what he does and is in discussion with Chomsky (not just interviewing him) he needs to be dressed down? I don't know about his personality but his field is very interesting, and that is basically all I care about, seeing as I don't have to share an appartment with him or something. Seems to me like choggie just wants to rant, and I just want to protect my post-subjects. Poor us

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