Barack Trek: Into Darkness - John Stewart on the Daily Show

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dystopianfuturetodaysays...

501(c)(4) is a status that non-profit social welfare organizations can apply for that exempts them from paying taxes, allows them to lobby without restriction, and allows them to take anonymous contributions. Raising money for political campaigns is not allowed for non-profits that work as 501(c)(4)s .

There was concern that some of these groups with blatantly political names were funneling illegal corporate cash to politicians, hence the IRS investigations out of Cincinnati. The GOP claimed that only conservative groups were targeted, which ended up being false. Liberal groups were targeted as well.

This story is a strategically smart move for the right wing media to play, because they can simultaneously smear the Obama campaign (which had absolutely nothing to do with this), intimidate the IRS from investigating illegal corporate campaign contributions in future elections, keep their base in a state of irrational fear and distract the public from the House quietly voting to take away overtime pay today.They even managed to get Jon Stewart to unwittingly help them out as a bonus.

I love Jon Stewart, but he got played here.

TL:DR: This story is manufactured bullshit, just like Benghazi and the AP email story.

VoodooVsaid:

have they given any reason WHY they were being targeted....and targeted for what?

they were under scrutiny..but under scrutiny for what?

VoodooVsays...

Thanks. Doesn't have to pay taxes AND has the ability to lobby?, 501(c)(4) seems like it should be gotten rid of. I don't care if it's tea party or anything else (although ironic because the tea party is supposed to be about fiscal responsibility, yet here's yet another situation where a group that will do anything to avoid paying their share).

No taxation? Then fuck you, no representation then.

dystopianfuturetodaysaid:

501(c)(4) is a status that non-profit social welfare organizations can apply for that exempts them from paying taxes, allows them to lobby without restriction, and allows them to take anonymous contributions. Raising money for political campaigns is not allowed for non-profits that work as 501(c)(4)s .

There was concern that some of these groups with blatantly political names were funneling illegal corporate cash to politicians, hence the IRS investigations out of Cincinnati. The GOP claimed that only conservative groups were targeted, which ended up being false. Liberal groups were targeted as well.

This story is a strategically smart move for the right wing media to play, because they can simultaneously smear the Obama campaign (which had absolutely nothing to do with this), intimidate the IRS from investigating illegal corporate campaign contributions in future elections, keep their base in a state of irrational fear and distract the public from the House quietly voting to take away overtime pay today.They even managed to get Jon Stewart to unwittingly help them out as a bonus.

I love Jon Stewart, but he got played here.

TL:DR: This story is manufactured bullshit, just like Benghazi and the AP email story.

lantern53says...

I don't think you understand how it works. They are already being represented (so-called) as citizens. The groups are not making a profit. And they are already paying taxes. But you prefer that they pay more. You really should wake the fuck up.

aaronfrsays...

Yes, individuals within such a group pay taxes through income, land, sales and payroll; these people form the membership of an association. Any association that is engaging in lobbying activities will pay a 35% tax on those activities and a percentage of the members dues (donations) will be declared non-deductible. If you think lobbyists shouldn't pay taxes on what they do, then you clearly do not understand the economic benefit that they reap from such activities. However, the individuals are not asked to pay more taxes, they are simply not allowed to deduct as much from their income taxes. Boo-freaking-hoo!

http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/whitepaperdetail.cfm?ItemNumber=12223

Groups applying for 501(c)(4) status are essentially requesting that donations to their group be anonymous. However, if a group is actively intervening in a political campaign, their members (donors) do not qualify for this privilege; they would be considered a 527. The IRS was scrutinizing groups asking for 501(c)(4) status because, well, that's their job. If a group applying for such status was actually a front for a political campaign or primarily engaged in media buys for election influencing (for example), then they don't qualify. Doesn't matter if you like who they are backing or not, dems da rules.

http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Social-Welfare-Organizations

aaronfrsays...

Declaring something a fact does not make it so. Those are two great examples of opinion.

They are both provable points of analysis, but they are not facts.

Do you have some insight into the way that Obama operates his administration, his day to day dealing with staff in all the departments of the executive branch? Those would be facts...

How many segments does Stewart do that are favorable to Obama? How many that are unfavorable? Once again, these would be facts...

But of course, I highly doubt you actually have any interest in facts. You just wanted to add some weight to your thinly analyzed opinions.

TangledThornssaid:

Two facts about these scandals. First, Obama's horrible leadership is what enabled this widespread corruption of government. Two, Stewart still gargles on Obama's genitalia.

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