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32 Comments
Traconsays...This best interview about Iraq and its inner workings that i have seen to date. He goes through a lot of possible outcomes and a huge amount of information about the Iraq groups there goals and alliances. The best and most amount of information about Iraq i have seen on television so far.
warning 53 minutes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Burns
Farhad2000says...An excellent read out of the military situation in Baghdad and an understanding of the insurgency forces and tactics. For anyone doubting such tactics should see the historical record via the tactics of the vietcong leading up to the Tết Offensive.
I recommend people watch this.
rickegeesays...John Burns is a regular guest on the Charlie Rose show. You can tell by his hair how the war is going---the hair and beard looked like a hot mess when he was on the show a few weeks ago.
A warning to Repubs in the group: Burns does work for the NYT so you should probably refuse to listen to him lest you get indoctrinated by liberofascism.
bigbikemansays...See. Now, I am, generally, anti-war (what sensible person wouldn't be?).
But this one of very precious few times I've heard a frank, sensible argument advocating a greater US presence that didn't stink of corruption, self-interest, and gung-ho warmongering thanks to gratuitous use of nonsensical rhetoric to explain the problem and justify the actions. There has been an infuriating deficiency of such analysis; this interview offers some insight to a perspective that has been heretofore ill-served by idiotic propaganda.
This is a rare hearing of a decent explanation of some sensible reasons that the current administration and military thinkers might think a troop surge will make a real difference....or that it's worth it. Many shades of grey here---as one would expect.
WTF is publicized analysis like this so rare? There is definitely a positive dearth of this stuff, as evidenced by Rose's zeal and inquisitiveness.
Wish I had two votes for this one. 4 days and 4 votes? what???
siftbotsays...Expired in Queue - 4 day limit.
rickegeesays...too bad. I'll have to remember to save this one.
Traconsays...i really wish you would. i thought just like bigbikeman did. The questions and idea's arent about sides or war yes or no. Its just the honest truth and that can be hard to find most of the time. No one gains anything from the general up down yes no answers on this.
rickegeesays...two more days until the save power returns. this is an excellent and serious discussion.
rickegeesays...*save
siftbotsays...This video cannot be saved by rickegee because rickegee saved another video less than four days ago - sorry.
Traconsays...damn it
rickegeesays...*save
siftbotsays...Saving this video from queue deletion, sending it to the top of the queue for one more try. Originally submitted on Saturday 27th January 2007 (save called by gold star member rickegee)
Traconsays...thanks alot
siftbotsays...Expired in Queue - 4 day limit.
Farhad2000says...For the love of god, if it's not FOX News being stupid or Colbert/Jon Stweart people don't even check it out.
Rage Against the Machine Says.... "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!"
*save
siftbotsays...Saving this video from queue deletion, sending it to the top of the queue for one more try. Originally submitted on Saturday 3rd February 2007 (save called by gold star member farhad2000)
Deanosays...OK, lemme hit the sack and check it out in the morning. For a second there I thought this had got 9 votes in 6 minutes...
rickegeesays...damned no more. great sift.
Traconsays...oh yeah and *long
siftbotsays...Gold Star invocations (long) cannot be executed by Tracon because Tracon is not a Gold Star member - sorry.
rickegeesays...*long
siftbotsays...This video has been marked Long (called by gold star member rickegee)
Deanosays...Fascinating, didn't think it would be anywhere NEAR that educational. Possibly my favourite sift so far.
re Mr Rose, I do think he chips in somewhat redundantly at times.
Deanosays...*promote
siftbotsays...Re-promoting this video to the front page as a VideoSift Classic. Originally published on Sunday 18th February 2007 (promotion called by gold star member Deano)
rbarsays...Dont know why, but it still is not marked as *long for me?
siftbotsays...Gold Star invocations (long) cannot be executed by rbar because rbar is not a Gold Star member - sorry.
Deanosays...*long
siftbotsays...This video has been marked Long (called by gold star member Deano)
rougysays...2,000,000 Iraqi refugees.
650,000+ dead as a result of our crappy occupation.
Does it really need to be any clearer than that?
Iraq is fucked. There is no un-fucking it.
The worst part about it all, is that the anti-war crowd knew about this years ago, and yet, when the war fails, we will be the ones that the cons blame.
my15minutessays...>> ^Tracon:
> warning 53 minutes.
and worth every one of them. i was watching, when it aired, as well.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Burns
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