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31 Comments
ghostcakesays...Funny shit.
bl968*blog while this isn't live video several scenes in here are basically snuff.
siftbotSending this video to Sift Talk for discussion (sent by Gold Star member bl968)
karaidlHey! Not cool! What do you mean "several scenes?" Number one, I counted only one that could fit into a very liberal defintion of snuff, because, number two, it was a picture!! You know, fake! Hand drawn! Tell you what, how bout I NSFW it and call it even?
bl968Look don't take my blogging this personal. It's not.
karaidlOk sorry sorry. You're right, it's not personal. But I stand by that this isn't snuff.
bl968I saw at least three major Objections
US Troops shooting man.
Dead body of man laying on the ground
Islamic man holding severed head
If we had a video showing these things they would be removed from the sift without question.
At least two sift posting guide policies are violated by this video.
We do not want pornography or "snuff" films (in which people die). There are plenty of other sites that have these markets covered, but it's not for us.
Please do not post videos that make fun of other races. Because of the high volume of traffic on the site, it would be very easy to offend a good deal of people with material like this. If you think the material is questionable, it's probably not going to pass our standards.
That is why I blogged it. If it's ok all Dag, Lucky, or any of the diamonds have to do is return it.
I asked dotdude to take a look and return this if it's ok.
karaidlThey're just pictures, nobody actually died.
And it doesn't make fun of a race, it makes fun of terrorists. There is a difference. The video never once attacks muslims, and it doesn't say muslim in the title or in the tags. There have been a few christians that have killed abortion doctors, but that doesn't mean ALL christians support that.
silvercordDon't make me stop this car . . .
karaidlActually, I do want you to stop the car because it's dangerous to type and drive. You know better, SC.
silvercordkaraidl,
I'd vote to return it for the cognitive dissonance factor alone. Let's have a few others weigh in and see. I think the Sift will probably downvote it but at least the community will decide.
Sc
karaidlI think it had about four or five votes before it was blogged.
swampgirlI didn't notice the severed head before, but I'm a bit surprised it wasn't shot down in the first 10 min, given it's treatment of such a sensitive topic.
Farhad2000I don't think you saw the last frame.
karaidlI don't think it's a sensitive topic. Terrorists=bad. You're making this a religious issue, and I think that's more offensive than the video. It's an insinuation that muslims are terrorists. They aren't. If I posted a video about an abortion doctor killed by a christian, nobody would be up in arms about me attacking christianity. That's because it isn't about the religion. Tell me, what's the difference?
karaidlAnd I can't seem to spot the severed head. You say it's in the last frame?
swampgirlah, had to stop it at the end to see it. Sorry karadi, as well made as it is...I can't enjoy it.
swampgirlIts not a religious issue, not for me at least. This is no different than the other satirical sifts on terrorism and the war.
Farhad2000I can't believe I need to explain this.
The last frame says created by "Muhammad & Allah and Mujahideen"
Muhammad (Arabic: محمد Muḥammad; also Mohammed, Muhammed, Mahomet, and other variants) was the founder of Islam and is regarded by Muslims as the last messenger and prophet of God (Arabic: الله Allah). Muslims believe that he was not the creator of a new religion, but the restorer of the original, uncorrupted monotheistic faith of Adam, Abraham and others. They see him as the last and the greatest in a series of prophets.
Allah is the standard Arabic word for "God." The term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God.Arabic-speakers of all faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Muslim and Christian Arabs of today have no other word for 'God' than 'Allah'. In pre-Islamic Arabia, Allah was used by pagan Meccans as a reference to a creator-god, possibly the supreme deity.
Mujahideen (Arabic: مجاهدين, muǧāhidīn; Turkish: Mücahit, literally "strugglers") is a term for Muslims fighting in a war or involved in any other struggle. Mujahid, and its plural, mujahideen, come from the same Arabic root as jihad ("struggle"). The word is the plural form of مجاهد, muǧāhid, which, literally translated from Arabic means a "struggler". In Islamic scripture, the status of mujahid is unequal to qaid, one who does not join the jihad.
karaidlI know it's not, that's why I don't like bl bringing up the posting guideline - Please do not post videos that make fun of other races. Because of the high volume of traffic on the site, it would be very easy to offend a good deal of people with material like this. If you think the material is questionable, it's probably not going to pass our standards.
The video does NOT make fun of any races. And I still have yet to see anyone die in the vid. All I see is hand drawn pictures.
karaidlAlright whatever. Discard it. Or return it and I'll discard it.
Farhad2000*discard
siftbotDiscarding this post (discard called by gold star member Farhad2000)
bl968The severed head I was speaking of is at 30 seconds into the video. The issue I have is the only place US troops are currently fighting is Iraq and Afghanistan. While there may be Jihadist there, the vast majority of the people fighting our troops are not foreign fighters. They are the indigenous people pissed the hell off that we invaded their country, dramatically lowered their standard of life, and havn't left once we did what we claimed we invaded to do. What would American Citizens do if the United Nations decided that we needed a regime change. I doubt very many Americans would passively sit by and let it happen. We expect to determine our own destiny as a nation. Why do we think that Iraq or Afghanistan citizens would want any different. We are fighting what for all intents and purposes are people just like ourselves. Leaving all that behind, I am going to again state that if someone posted a video showing these exact same clips even as still frames, it would likely be discarded on the spot.
This was made to be humerous but it's not a funny subject. Sorry my objections stand.
swampgirlIn all fairness, Farhad that shouldn't be a basis for the discard. Christianity gets dumped on a daily basis here without being blogged for it.
It's correct to take issue though if those images of bodies and heads are just cell shaded, yet authentic photographs.
Farhad2000My discard was a general thing. It's a video done in poor taste to get people in the gut. Not only are they massaracing what was for me a passable show on Sundays, they are simply being insensitive to a sensitive topic right now. War is not funny.
silvercordI didn't notice the severed head before, but I'm a bit surprised it wasn't shot down in the first 10 min, given it's treatment of such a sensitive topic.
That's why I would have returned it. Let the Sift decide.
swampgirlwell, maybe it should hang out here a bit more before kicking it
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If we're going by rank here...then it's up to you sparkly diamonds.. night
karaidlI requested the discard. If farhead hadn't done it, I would've.
Farhad2000Farhad.
karaidlYea, well, nobody seems to get Karaidl right... everyone thinks it's Karaidli.
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