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Sniper007 (Member Profile)
Sniper,
The Wall Builders site, like most Christian biased sites (and books) on the founding fathers take a lot of quotes out of context, superimposing their beliefs of God and Jesus onto others they wish were just like them. I've had this conversation a number of times, pointing to the fact that while the builders mention Jesus and God and Christianity, the emphasis is almost always on the philosophy, minus the supernatural. The founding fathers as a collective were very much deists and pantheists. Their ideas on religion are more comparable to the "God" of Einstein. *shrug* Read between the lines, man.
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Some convenient editting:
Wall Builders quoting of Jefferson: "I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others."
His actual quote: "I am a Christian, in the only sense he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; & believing he never claimed any other."
Wall Builders again quoting Jefferson: "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
Actual quote: "A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonists, who call me infidel and themselves Christians and preachers of the gospel, while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what its author never said nor saw."
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Quoting out of context seems to be the bread and butter of the current America. Question everything.
In search of truth and not justification for my beliefs,
~Pool
In reply to this comment by Sniper007:
McCain is an idiot who isn't worth listening too. Nevertheless, America was absolutely founded on the Bible. It's a historical fact alluded to in the foundational documents of the American Nation. To quote from the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin:
"We the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings, form a more perfect government, insure domestic tranquility and promote the general welfare: do establish this CONSTITUTION."
Furthermore, the congress in this nation agreed, and in 1983 passed public law 97-280 which recognized the fact that the Bible was instrumental in this Nations inception.
The first Continental Congress ever held in this country was opened with Judeo-Christian Prayer. http://tinyurl.com/5zs6q3
To see mountains of evidence to this effect, see http://www.wallbuilders.com/.
Rebut that with which you disagree with relevant fact and law.
Lowen (Member Profile)
You get a star. Yay!
Payback (Member Profile)
In reply to this comment by Payback:
>> ^poolcleaner:
You wanna know what I think? I think you're some kinda deviated prevert.
Can you possibly imagine what is going to happen to you, your frame, outlook, way of life, and everything, when they learn that you have obstructed a comment to the Best Sift of All Time? Can you imagine?
schmawy (Member Profile)
Oh, I definitely agree. Appropriately, you've fused a cat butt into porn.
Now get some sleep.
In reply to this comment by schmawy:
hehe. pr0n legs. I'm not the strictest adherent the lexicography of the itnerwebs. It's such a great venue for creativity. May I suggest...
p(*)rn?
See, now it's got a little pooper! I need some sleep.
In reply to this comment by poolcleaner:
http://kol.coldfront.net/index.php/content/view/624/49?itemid=537
In reply to this comment by schmawy:
p()rn!
In reply to this comment by poolcleaner:
This is entertaining and I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said -- except to schmawy, you cute little kitty you: it's "pr0n", not p0rn. You know, like prawn.
schmawy (Member Profile)
http://kol.coldfront.net/index.php/content/view/624/49?itemid=537
In reply to this comment by schmawy:
p()rn!
In reply to this comment by poolcleaner:
This is entertaining and I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said -- except to schmawy, you cute little kitty you: it's "pr0n", not p0rn. You know, like prawn.
andybesy (Member Profile)
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Greatest-Line-of-Any-Film
In reply to this comment by andybesy:
My favourite line from this movie is "You can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
ElJardinero (Member Profile)
In reply to this comment by ElJardinero:
Oceania is taking it's first steps.
Ain't that the truth.
8369 (Member Profile)
In reply to this comment by tagomi77:
>> ^spoco2:
b) The portions of the interview with the Bear guy (Can't remember his name) that was killed by bears.
Timothy Treadwell as seen in the documentary "Grizzly Man"
Werner Herzog ftw.
schmawy (Member Profile)
>> ^schmawy:
Bronze'd! Well done.
Yeah, I sort of dig the sift.
schmawy (Member Profile)
I never thanked you for your help sifting my first video, Schmawy. Thanks.