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dead_tofu (Member Profile)

The Olympic Bailout

bobknight33 says...

Yet another reason NOT to vote for this fool. May he and Gingrich flame out of the public eye.

We are in so much debt and so close to turning into Greece. We need a strong President that can cut spending NOW not over 10 years. We don't have that much time.


Obama budget is a dismal failure and will never pass. Yet another false Hope in the White House.


That leaves Rick Santorum and Ron Paul the only true Americans running to become president.

Jay Leno: Bill Maher On Rick Santorum

Jay Leno: Bill Maher On Rick Santorum

Rick Santorum Disagrees With Catholic Church

Rick Santorum Disagrees With Catholic Church

Republican Chokes Up At Gay Marriage Debate

quantumushroom says...

If you support gay marriage, you support polygamy by default. At least you, @ChaosEngine have the stones to actually support both. I'd even go so far as to agree with you, with the exception that I'll freely admit there are/will be many unforeseen problems with both gay marriage and polygamy.


I don't equate pedophilia with homosexuality. What I dispute is your confidence that within 20 years, whatever authority you believe the State will have to prevent pedophile "unions" will still exist.

If no one here has a problem with california or any state revoking election results, aka the will of the people, welcome to fascism.


>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^quantumushroom:
If these votes are based only on how people are wired or some all-purpose equality then the State has no right to bar plural aka polygamous marriages.

Leaving aside the utterly retarded slippery slope that gay marriage leads to polygamy (which undoubtedly leads to marrying a donkey in your insane world), who gives a fuck?
Provided all parties are consenting adults, I have no problem with any number of people marrying each other. You want to live in a bisexual transgender four way with two guys, a chick and a shemale? Hey, if you're happy, more power to you.
I suppose next you're going to try to equate homosexuality to pedophilia. again.

Republican Chokes Up At Gay Marriage Debate

ChaosEngine says...

>> ^quantumushroom:
If these votes are based only on how people are wired or some all-purpose equality then the State has no right to bar plural aka polygamous marriages.


Leaving aside the utterly retarded slippery slope that gay marriage leads to polygamy (which undoubtedly leads to marrying a donkey in your insane world), who gives a fuck?

Provided all parties are consenting adults, I have no problem with any number of people marrying each other. You want to live in a bisexual transgender four way with two guys, a chick and a shemale? Hey, if you're happy, more power to you.

I suppose next you're going to try to equate homosexuality to pedophilia. again.

Anonymous Exposes Ron Paul

aurens says...

Yikes. As Ron Paul said to Rick Santorum a few weeks ago: I think you're a little "overly sensitive!"

I haven't "lashed out" at anyone, and I certainly haven't demanded information of anyone. (Where are those accusations coming from?) I called you out for posting an uninformative video (uninformative in the sense that, in an attempt to share a story about Anonymous' "exposure" of Ron Paul, you put up a one-minute clip of Sam Seder making generalized statements without any specific evidence—and note that other people in this comments section share my opinion on this), and I took issue with @dystopianfuturetoday's overly simplified discussion of states' rights.

The issue of states' rights is obviously something of a complicated one (this part of my response if for @Boise_Lib, too). I'm aware of the historical weight of the term, but I'm also aware that there's no inherent link between states' rights and racism. There are lots of people on the Sift who care about states' rights and who appreciate our federal system of government, one that allots certain rights to the federal government and certain rights to the states, and yet I've never seen ONE comment on the Sift that showed any sort of overt racism. (I haven't been around as long as many of you, so it's possible that there have been some; it's just that I've never personally seen one.) That should be a good example, in and of itself, of the fact that states' rights, for many people, do NOT go hand in hand with white supremacy. For dystopianfuturetoday to make that suggestion in the context of a Sift discussion on the issue *is* insulting to many of us.

And for the record, @dystopianfuturetoday, Ron Paul doesn't have me in some trance-like state of manipulation. I didn't vote for him in the last election, and I don't plan to vote for him this time around. There are *lots* of things about his platform that I outright disagree with, and there are a handful of things that I disagree with so fundamentally (his positions on abortion, climate change, evolution, his religiosity, among others) that I often question why I even bother keeping up with his politics. (The reason: because there are lots of his positions that I *do* agree with, in particular positions that no one else seems even to address.) But this whole racism thing really just peeves me. I mean, for magical Christ's sake, if he's a racist, and if he's in cahoots with white supremacists and Neo-Nazis, then I, more than anyone else, want to read some credible, vetted news stories on the matter, so I can put the issue to bed once and for all. But instead, I keep seeing videos like this one which purport, rather dramatically, so "expose" him in all his shameful glory ... only to be disappointed by the content of the video.

I suppose that frustration at being continually disappointed by these racist "exposures" is all wrapped up in my original reaction to the video (and its title). In any event, though, I'm interested to see how this new issue plays out. As I said in my second post, I want to know the truth about his relationship to these white supremacists; if it's damning, then let's see some good journalism exposing it as such.>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^aurens:
(And sorry if I came off as combative; it wasn't my intention.)

Yes, yes, you've been the model of poise and restraint. You've lashed out at me, Sam Seder, the site who's reported on this, and have demanded some sort of full investigative report be delivered to you, because you refuse to even try to answer your own questions with your own research.
Never mind that the link I gave you included a link to the full document dump of the e-mail recovered by Anonymous, you think it's "amateurish" because you didn't understand what they were talking about, or didn't like their tone, or some BS like that.
Now you're trying to castigate DFT for not contributing to "the conversation"? Dude, you've been doing your best to make sure there won't be anything like a sane and rational conversation on this video from your very first comment.
Take some deep breaths. Go google "Ron Paul anonymous american third position" and read some links until you have an idea of what's going on. Then come back when you're ready to have a measured conversation about the topic.

Deano (Member Profile)

Chris Hedges Sues Obama Administration

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Rick Santorum Eloquently Debunks "The Science"

luxury_pie says...

>> ^peggedbea:

>> ^NetRunner:

How about the people who will go out, and donate money, volunteer for, and vote for a guy like this? Can they be saved? Can the rest of us be saved from them?

i find this really interesting. i have two really, really badass friends. They're eclectic neo pagans. They support gay marriage. They love pre-marital sex. They love kinky sex. They give their children advice on masturbation and safe sex. They are not themselves swingers, but they hang out with lots of them. They smoke pot. They both have master's degrees in health science fields. They decorate their "yule" tree with pentagrams. They're really intelligent, groovy people. and They love Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin. I can't even ask them about it because we made a pact a long time ago that we wouldn't discuss politics. Because it makes our heads explode. BUT THIS MYSTERY IS MAKING MY HEAD WANT TO EXPLODE.


That is the most fucked up thing I read here on videosift.

gwiz665 (Member Profile)

Rick Santorum Eloquently Debunks "The Science"

ChaosEngine says...

>> ^Quboid:

I hate the "why won't science even debate a Creator?" argument. We've had the debate, and your theory has been found sorely wanting. If you have a new data or new ways of looking at things, then we, as a species, will reconsider your position.


Have you ever seen one of those debates? They're utterly pointless. The science guys sit around patiently and then the creator never shows up to argue his side. Half of the audience then attribute this as an epic win for the creator.



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