>> ^AeroMechanical:

I haven't seen anything that suggested it was murder, just really poor trigger discipline.


Keep telling yourself that. The medical examiners thought otherwise.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-07-26-tillman-friendly-fire_N.htm
"The doctors — whose names were blacked out — said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away."

The medical examiners wanted a criminal investigation, but...
"Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments."

"No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene — no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck."

How does one mistake fellow Army Rangers in Army Humvees for enemy when they don't return fire and engage them for 10+ minutes and then get ten yards away from the most recognizable person in the platoon shouting his name and shoot him in the head with a 3 round burst?

... because of "poor trigger discipline"? Yeah, right.

Had a beagle do that to me. Same park, more or less the same reaction. Her name was Baggage.

Dad took her off the lead, she spotted a deer in the twilight and went after it. Deer got away, I dont think there was ever any danger of it actually being caught but that fucking dog chased it well out of sight. Eventually we could no longer hear her barks. We spent a good hour or two going around the immediate area of the park making ourself hoarse until we lost the light, gave up and informed the park rangers.

We left the park and started walking home when we spotted a woman with two dogs, a German Shepherd and a Beagle also walking away from the park. We went over to talk to her and ask her if she'd seen a Beagle just like hers. Turns out it wasn't hers (surprise). She'd taken her wolfish German Shepherd off her lead so she could keep the fucking Beagle from shooting off again. Her dog was perfectly behaved, ours tried to eat anything and everything she could get her mouth around.

Much as I love Dogs I'm so glad we found a good owner for that Beagle not too long after. We inherited her from a sick relative, and with our rather pokey city living this mischievous stomach on legs was a little too much to handle.

If you're a dog owner then much respect. Amazing Animals but the time investment is monstrous.

everquest was a total time sink and while there were aspects that could become tedious depending on which class you chose (looking for group,xp grinding,pp farming),i feel this was counter balanced by how grouping and forming alliances was intrinsically part of the game.
you couldnt do anything worth a crap by yourself.
that kept the douche/dick ratio super low.
i remember a 35 bard who kept training us in HHK when we were lowly lvl 20's.turns out he was training all the lower level zones.i still remember his name "bartlbee".he never made it to lvl 40 because people remembered him and refused to group with him or assist him in any way.

in everquest you NEEDED other people to progress in content,so being a dick just meant you were not going to have access to higher tier gear and zones.(remember farming keys for raids?)

i started playing EQ just after luclin came out and it took me over a year to cap at lvl 70.i played WOW for 6 months and have 3 lvl 85's (hunter,shammie and a ret pally).the only challenge WOW offers for me at high end content is PVP and that game is infested with douchebags and dickweeds.
why?
because you can solo all the way to 85 and dont really need anyone and when its time to go for the epic 85 gear just have good dps and your good.

so yeah.
i miss the sense of accomplishment when you grinded xp for 2 days to ding a level.i miss that sense of apprehension running through a zone that may have mobs that can one shot you,because there was a real sense of anxiety if you died you lost not only time to find a rez,or run back to corpse,but an asston of hard earned xp.
or being able to help a friend who once helped you as the scout for his thurgadin giant war (awesome quest btw).

in everquest you formed alliances and relationships,because you had to if you wanted to get the good gear.everquest took patience.

i still remember a pally i leveled my ranger with.i had found the giant stronghold KAEL and was excited to show him,so he followed me to this city in the side of a mountain (forgot the zone),but i had failed to remember that there was a huuuge cliff and he followed me right over the edge.we both fell to our deaths and he took a screenshot of our dead bodies cuddling (it appeared that way).
to our chagrin there was an entire raid group that saw the whole thing and from that point on,any toon that jumped off a cliff was called 'pullin a shak and ames".

what other game can give you that kind of notoriety?

good times my friends...good times.

>> ^AeroMechanical:

I believe their rifles fire three shots with each pull of the trigger, so being shot three times doesn't necessarily mean anything.
>> ^marbles:
Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away. Friendly fire? Yeah, right.



It doesn't? It makes it hard to sell the lie that it was an Al-Qaeda ambush.

New documents shed light on Tillman’s death:
“The medical evidence did not match up with the scenario as described,” a doctor who examined Tillman’s body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

The doctors — whose names were blacked out — said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.
...
Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.

The three-star general who kept the truth about Tillman’s death from his family and the public told investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory and couldn’t recall details of his actions.

No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene — no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.
...
It has been widely reported by the AP and others that Spc. Bryan O’Neal, who was at Tillman’s side as he was killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving his arms shouting “Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!” again and again.

oh god, it was awful. and thursday game was the most stressful thing in the world. sheesh.
next year, next year. the rangers were horrible for 30 years, it's pretty awesome that they even have the chance to lose 2 consecutive world series.

In reply to this comment by eric3579:
Just needed one more strike! TWICE!

He was also the Red Ranger for a while...also the Dino Thunder Black ranger >_>

No one riot one Ranger BS in SD, impressively sewed up.

I never liked the Power Rangers, and after finding out how the cast and crew treated the original blue ranger because the actor was gay, I hate it.

edit: after investigating, the cast doesn't seem to have been involved in that. It was directors, writers, producers, etc.

Not a Texas Ranger but a Tx State Trooper.

...less than 150 Rangers and not much into traffic stops.

One riot...one Ranger.

>> ^shuac:

Fuck that kid and his lawsuit should be filed up his ass.
Mistake #1: He immediately got out of the car with a hand in his pocket
If you do this, then you should not feign surprise that you're being yelled at. Cops are far less interested in talking to you than you might expect when you immediately get out of your car with a hand in your pocket. MUCH less interested than you think. They are more interested in getting control of a possibly hostile situation. There are far too many situations of cops being shot because they failed to gain control ( see below). If this is something you cannot understand, then stop reading this post and go out and get some more life experience. Armchair judging is fun and everything and it's shocking how little effort it takes, believe me...I understand the impulse.
Mistake #2: He failed to follow the cop's orders after being told dozens and dozens of fucking times.
Again, if this is something you feel is okie-dokie, then have at it, Hoss. Just don't get all litigious and expect any support from me (not that that's the gold standard or anything). The cop is under NO OBLIGATION to talk to the perp in such a situation. The kid forfeited the right to talk about why he was pulled over the instant he exited his vehicle with his hand in his pocket. And if you don't understand how hostile it is for someone to ignore a cop's repeated commands like this, then you are a fucking moron. I'm afraid it's that simple.

http://youtu.be/qoI4G1fWmEQ
http://youtu.be/rgXQK3NfRY4
http://youtu.be/2sxwvkVzhyA
http://youtu.be/MEpUtoUzE4U
So to sum up: this kid deserved to be tasered and I'm glad he was.


Those links of yours are so sad and very instructive of the kind of shit cops have to deal with and why they feel so threatened when someone comes out of the car aggressively with a baggy jacket and their hand in their pocket and ignoring lawful orders. I sifted all of them:
http://videosift.com/video/Two-cops-killed-during-traffic-stop
http://videosift.com/video/Texas-ranger-shot-at-point-blank-in-routine-speeding-stop
http://videosift.com/video/Police-officer-murdered-by-two-men-during-traffic-stop
http://videosift.com/video/Cop-shot-in-face-during-routine-traffic-stop-survives

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>> ^Opus_Moderandi:

>> ^eric3579:
That was awesome! Suck on that coppers!

They're more like Park Rangers really...


Sooo... you're saying they're really bad ass?

>> ^eric3579:

That was awesome! Suck on that coppers!


They're more like Park Rangers really...

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we need cops like this ranger to be on every street corner!! he'd enforce the law, and you'd have a good laugh while he's doin it