I was smoking weed at a NIN concert a few years ago. Trent Reznor pointed at me, looked into my eyes and said, "This asshole of a girl right here is smoking WEED. GET HER." I'm lucky I'm 5 feet tall, because I melted into the mosh pit behind me.

Yeah, the last time I saw NIN here at the MTS Centre (sitting about one section below the dude in the video, IIRC), the air was blue. We saw security drag a handful of people out at the beginning of the show, but I think they just gave up after that.

Crist, I went to see Nine inch nails / Jane's Addiction (Nin/ja) at the Molson center this last summer..

I think there was an air to pot ratio of about 70% pot.

oh yes! remind me to send you the mp3 of my friends new project, which involves mashing nin songs with songs and clips from revenge of the nerds.

the title of his project? nine inch nerds. brilliant.

Yup, Doc Ellis took the acid.. So did Dan Rather, Cary Grant, Aldous Huxley, Francis Crick, Anais Nin, Bill Gates, the creators of South Park, and others.


Good thing it's finding its way back into clinical studies.

^ NIN enriches American culture with lyrics like these:

God money i'll do anything for you.
God money just tell me what you want me to.
God money nail me up against the wall.
God money don't want everything he wants it all.

<chorus>

God money's not looking for the cure.
God money's not concerned with the sick among the pure.
God money let's go dancing on the backs of the bruised.
God money's not one to choose

You might say "Head Like a Hole" describes what's wrong with our culture better in those eight lines than most people could in eight volumes.

Perhaps you just can't look past "Closer"'s "I want to fuck you like an animal" chorus. That song always struck me as a gut-twisting ode to how meaningless sex can't make you feel better about yourself, even if it makes you feel good when you're doing it.

But mostly I think if you want to accuse NIN of anything, it's for misapprehending which part of what was done should be organized against: using their music without conesent, or torturing human beings.

Personally I think the latter one steals the show.

>> ^Drax:
Plenty of people enjoy Nine Inch Nails. My love for NIN's in how complex the music is, even his most catchy of tunes. Every listen I can peel off more layers of sound on a good set of headphones and hear new sound elements. I also enjoy the fictional story line of the man split in two that carries over all the albums from The Downward Spiral (the becoming) to With Teeth (only). Trent also seems to have a lot of integrity, but I'm a NIN fan for the music. The fact that Trent's actually a rather decent guy isn't what brings me back every release.
Now considering he has a strong fan base who enjoys his music, how is it he hasn't enriched the music culture to some degree? His work's bled over into other media as well, Tony Scott's The Fan was influenced by The Downward Spiral album. The Machinist and Flight Club where also influenced by NIN (The Machinist especially)
Do you just not enjoy it due to taste? Or is it something else you don't like?


What you've said, "enriched the music culture to some degree," strikes more closely at reality than what was quoted in your original post: "enriched American culture." I could have been more clear in my initial post that my reaction wasn't to the music, but to the idea encapsulated in the last sentence of your post that NIN had made some kind of morally positive contribution to American culture. I don't think they have. I realize that you didn't write that and, from your latest post, you don't go along with it, but whoever did pen those words is taking someone too seriously.

Plenty of people enjoy Nine Inch Nails. My love for NIN's in how complex the music is, even his most catchy of tunes. Every listen I can peel off more layers of sound on a good set of headphones and hear new sound elements. I also enjoy the fictional story line of the man split in two that carries over all the albums from The Downward Spiral (the becoming) to With Teeth (only). Trent also seems to have a lot of integrity, but I'm a NIN fan for the music. The fact that Trent's actually a rather decent guy isn't what brings me back every release.

Now considering he has a strong fan base who enjoys his music, how is it he hasn't enriched the music culture to some degree? His work's bled over into other media as well, Tony Scott's The Fan was influenced by The Downward Spiral album. The Machinist and Flight Club where also influenced by NIN (The Machinist especially)

Do you just not enjoy it due to taste? Or is it something else you don't like?

>> ^Truckchase:
>> ^silvercord:
I hate to be negative, but really, Trent:
Stoppit

Really? You're going to side with Mrs. Cheney on this one eh? I'm sure you'll find plenty of popular support on that....


I'm not "siding with Mrs. Cheney." I'm responding to the sentiment regarding the positive influence that Nine Inch Nails have had on American culture, i.e. " . . . all the awesome musicians who have enriched American culture . . . " and all the other indignation over at the NIN hotline. If it had been Michael Stipe, I wouldn't have said a word.

>> ^silvercord:
I hate to be negative, but really, Trent:
Stoppit


Really? You're going to side with Mrs. Cheney on this one eh? I'm sure you'll find plenty of popular support on that....

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In reply to this comment by Drax:
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh F it

NiN has probably THE best sound engineer I've heard. Everything I've ever seen/heard from their live performances is amazing. They sound almost if not as good as a studio production.

The making of NIN closer
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Making-of-Nine-Inch-Nails-Closer

Of the first two CD's I bought one of them was NIN's broken... ~This isn't meant to last, this is for right now!~ was.. ~This is a metal axe...~

I know, right?

Thanks for posting this. Based on my memory, I see little resemblance to the novel. But there are many things that I've forgotten.

There was this film made in 1994, Drug-Taking and the Arts.

Had some heavy hitters in it. Anais Nin, Allen Ginsberg.

Part of it was based on the novel of a French writer, who wrote of wine and hashish. Baudelaire?

Can't find a copy of it now.