I was informed that each 5 year package comes with a free year.

Thanks PhP, I designed a robotic pony that virtu-pooped on my VR headset. Good news is I didn't break a law when I murdered it with my bare hands.

That was supposed to be a lead in to discussing BluesNews. "Uh huh. "

The internet. It builds trust and our relationships here are real and a great substitute for face to face interaction. I'm glad this is the future.

Is there a button for 67% sarcasm? Shit, 58% now.... fuck.

We both know that if I could do that I'd be rich.

Happy 7th Anniversary in 1 month, 22 days... thanks for the memories!

Thanks, I don't feel a day over 6.

If there's one thing I've learned over the last six years siftbot, it's that you're a liar.

Hey thanks. I'm guessing I have set the record to longest to bronze.

Yah man, that one is on Netflix too. That dude is a little too concerned with the "cut of his jib".

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
You know, someone has tried that excact clip, and only got 5 votes - http://videosift.com/video/Sesame-Street-Elmos-Song

Other Elmo ones have got as many as 135 votes - http://videosift.com/video/Elmo-Interviews-Ricky-Gervais

You'd be surprised what will do well here sometimes

Your two PQ'd on 9 videos would probably sift if you ran them through beggar's canyon on a Thursday or Friday (to get the weekend traffic), and then you would only need to post a handful more to get bronze (says the newbie to the long standing member!). If you renew your membership, a promote would be even better.

On re-reading your comment below, I'd like to clarify that I only ever meant to ban self promotion during an anonymous week contest, not in general, and it's certainly quicker to promote than to go out vote whoring the hard way.
In reply to this comment by Truckchase:
Ahhh, that explains it, mine aren't old enough to like anything but "Elmo's song" yet. Doubt that would get many votes.

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
We might not quite be on the same page, but I think we're in the same chapter. I agree with everything you said here, except the part about changes being required to get there

I can confirm that children are no impediment to success here. In my case, I've had more success with ones my children like (or that I looked up for them) than the ones that I posted just because I liked them. They are usually only demanding until they're asleep

I'm quite surprised that BT and FA followed us here for this conversation too, even though I hang out in their corner of the sift. Perhaps they read the recent comment stream?
In reply to this comment by Truckchase:
Sounds good. At the end of the day I don't think video quality voting should be based on personal loyalty. You must have made quite an impression already to have a couple really great guys (BT, FA) on the sift upvoting your personal comment to some random dude.

If you're willing to take the time to make yourself an integral part of this community the perspective of favoring loyalty votes and disallowing self promotion will work well for you. On the other hand, I'm in favor of measures to empower those who don't devote much time to the site but enjoy it and the people just as much. (i.e. me; my kids are demanding) I would also argue that it would be healthier for the site and the community as a whole to welcome such measures since the attitude of person-to-person loyalty will endure regardless of the obstacles placed in front of it. The last thing I think you really want here is an echo chamber despite how appealing it may seem at face value.

I agree with that statement. Additionally, that bastard Elmo is riding Ricky Gervais' coattails.

Ahhh, that explains it, mine aren't old enough to like anything but "Elmo's song" yet. Doubt that would get many votes.

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
We might not quite be on the same page, but I think we're in the same chapter. I agree with everything you said here, except the part about changes being required to get there

I can confirm that children are no impediment to success here. In my case, I've had more success with ones my children like (or that I looked up for them) than the ones that I posted just because I liked them. They are usually only demanding until they're asleep

I'm quite surprised that BT and FA followed us here for this conversation too, even though I hang out in their corner of the sift. Perhaps they read the recent comment stream?
In reply to this comment by Truckchase:
Sounds good. At the end of the day I don't think video quality voting should be based on personal loyalty. You must have made quite an impression already to have a couple really great guys (BT, FA) on the sift upvoting your personal comment to some random dude.

If you're willing to take the time to make yourself an integral part of this community the perspective of favoring loyalty votes and disallowing self promotion will work well for you. On the other hand, I'm in favor of measures to empower those who don't devote much time to the site but enjoy it and the people just as much. (i.e. me; my kids are demanding) I would also argue that it would be healthier for the site and the community as a whole to welcome such measures since the attitude of person-to-person loyalty will endure regardless of the obstacles placed in front of it. The last thing I think you really want here is an echo chamber despite how appealing it may seem at face value.

Sounds good. At the end of the day I don't think video quality voting should be based on personal loyalty. You must have made quite an impression already to have a couple really great guys (BT, FA) on the sift upvoting your personal comment to some random dude.

If you're willing to take the time to make yourself an integral part of this community the perspective of favoring loyalty votes and disallowing self promotion will work well for you. On the other hand, I'm in favor of measures to empower those who don't devote much time to the site but enjoy it and the people just as much. (i.e. me; my kids are demanding) I would also argue that it would be healthier for the site and the community as a whole to welcome such measures since the attitude of person-to-person loyalty will endure regardless of the obstacles placed in front of it. The last thing I think you really want here is an echo chamber despite how appealing it may seem at face value.

>> ^oritteropo:

I think the nice thing about the sift is that the people here are generally nice! I don't necessarily agree that anything much needs to be done, since the senior sifters are mostly nice to newbies and will freely hand out advice and the odd promote for worthy vids.
During anonymous week, I really missed seeing who had voted up my vids and the ones I voted for. I didn't personally miss the lack of promotes, but I think that if the contest is repeated it could be changed to only no self promotes (and, in fact, I wouldn't object if that was the standard rule!).
I don't even agree that newbies have to be aggressive to stand out, just posting lots of cool vids is enough (or, in my case, just posting lots of vids ) and making lots of comments.
Perhaps we should just agree to disagree?
In reply to this comment by Truckchase:
I know what you're saying, but I think someone needs to be done about the loyalty associated with individuals. It makes it much harder for non-aggressive "newbies" to make a dent in this community. That said, I really like 90% of the people on the sift... I think the main reason I think this way is that I find myself doing the same thing you have argued for and I'm not quite comfortable with it. Perhaps totally anonymous wouldn't be the way to go, but I do wish some sort of incentive were there to draw attention to those that don't get it because of their name.

I know what you're saying, but I think someone needs to be done about the loyalty associated with individuals. It makes it much harder for non-aggressive "newbies" to make a dent in this community. That said, I really like 90% of the people on the sift... I think the main reason I think this way is that I find myself doing the same thing you have argued for and I'm not quite comfortable with it. Perhaps totally anonymous wouldn't be the way to go, but I do wish some sort of incentive were there to draw attention to those that don't get it because of their name.

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
Well sure, but I was talking about the unsifted queue, and I think the others were too. This is just about how some newly submitted videos get preferential treatment based on the poster.

I try to treat each video on its merits, but was describing a situation where that doesn't always happen.
In reply to this comment by Truckchase:
>> ^oritteropo:
If I have 5 minutes to watch a video or two, and can choose between one posted by someone who usually posts interesting stuff, or J. Random Sifter, which one am I going to choose?
Or, even worse, given a third choice of someone who usually (but perhaps not this time!) posts things I don't enjoy?
I'd argue that's what the voting & channel systems are for.

Sounds good; I looked @ it as Dr. Who first and SNES 2nd since it was a "cover". I did the 80s tag since Dr. Who was really big in the 80s. Makes sense that way too though. Thanks!

In reply to this comment by xxovercastxx:
My interpretation of 1sttube is that it's for clips from television, so I would not include this. Just my interpretation, though.

I assume 80s was there for the SNES itself, but that launched in the 90s.

In reply to this comment by Truckchase:
Hey OC; this vid isn't an actual video game but a remake of the real TV theme song in a SNES style. I figured this would still qualify for 1sttube because of that fact. Do you figure that it doesn't since it didn't actually air on TV? I could see that too... just trying to get clarification. Thx!

In reply to this comment by xxovercastxx:
*nochannel *videogames *british *geek

Hey OC; this vid isn't an actual video game but a remake of the real TV theme song in a SNES style. I figured this would still qualify for 1sttube because of that fact. Do you figure that it doesn't since it didn't actually air on TV? I could see that too... just trying to get clarification. Thx!

In reply to this comment by xxovercastxx:
*nochannel *videogames *british *geek