>> ^Hive13:

>> ^Yogi:
So now just being on someones property means you will die instantly? Maybe we can mechanize this in some way...make sure that no living thing will EVER trespass again!
You're too stupid to understand the complexities of this world. Never ever ever join the military or a police force or even umpire little league you sad stupid man.

I served honorably in the Army for six years and received multiple commendations for exemplary service, am a licensed concealed handgun holder in Texas, do more community service in my area than you have probably dreamed of and am a father of four.
FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine
Thank you for basically nullifying any sort of argument you may have had in this "debate" and taking the low route to try and prove your point.


Ok here's something that unnullifies my point. My mother was raped and murdered while she was alone in our home when I was 3. I still believe that you cannot just decide someone is deserving of having no life immediately when they trespass or rob you and I do not agree with the Castle Doctrine the most insane piece of legislation since 3 strikes.

So again...Go Fuck Yourself and learn maybe ONE DAY that the world is Not black and white. There isn't a good and an evil, it's all gray.

>> ^Yogi:

So now just being on someones property means you will die instantly? Maybe we can mechanize this in some way...make sure that no living thing will EVER trespass again!
You're too stupid to understand the complexities of this world. Never ever ever join the military or a police force or even umpire little league you sad stupid man.


I served honorably in the Army for six years and received multiple commendations for exemplary service, am a licensed concealed handgun holder in Texas, do more community service in my area than you have probably dreamed of and am a father of four.

FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine

Thank you for basically nullifying any sort of argument you may have had in this "debate" and taking the low route to try and prove your point.

>> ^Hive13:

Yogi, I guess you neglected to read the part where they were both killed ON HIS PROPERTY. He went out there to stop stall them until the police arrived(stupidly), they came after him entering his property and he then killed them.


So now just being on someones property means you will die instantly? Maybe we can mechanize this in some way...make sure that no living thing will EVER trespass again!

You're too stupid to understand the complexities of this world. Never ever ever join the military or a police force or even umpire little league you sad stupid man.

You may not find him HA HA funny, but you can sure laugh AT him for being a complete tosser.

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>> ^bobknight33:

So at what point was that funny?


Wow, really? Nothing?

Comedy is a funny thing isn't it (ha ha... pun very much intended)?

For instance. Andrew Dice Clay. I have never, ever, EVER seen a single thing he's done that would even slightly move me to laughter, and yet he sold out stadium shows. I SO don't get how he is funny. And yet people do (or at least did).

But people do find it funny.

Same with this, I found it to be quite hilarious, and yet you can't see the humour in it.

Strange.

Maybe you had to see the movies? The Girl With trilogy?

I haven't seen them. I also didn't think this was particularly funny, but I figured it was because of not knowing the references.

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^bobknight33:
So at what point was that funny?

Wow, really? Nothing?
Comedy is a funny thing isn't it (ha ha... pun very much intended)?
For instance. Andrew Dice Clay. I have never, ever, EVER seen a single thing he's done that would even slightly move me to laughter, and yet he sold out stadium shows. I SO don't get how he is funny. And yet people do (or at least did).
But people do find it funny.
Same with this, I found it to be quite hilarious, and yet you can't see the humour in it.
Strange.

>> ^bobknight33:

So at what point was that funny?


Wow, really? Nothing?

Comedy is a funny thing isn't it (ha ha... pun very much intended)?

For instance. Andrew Dice Clay. I have never, ever, EVER seen a single thing he's done that would even slightly move me to laughter, and yet he sold out stadium shows. I SO don't get how he is funny. And yet people do (or at least did).

But people do find it funny.

Same with this, I found it to be quite hilarious, and yet you can't see the humour in it.

Strange.

Rules for the Zombie Apocalypse.

1 - You are not safe. EVER.

2- Cardio- Be able to run for an extended period of time
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3- Always carry a minimum of 2 reliable, lethal weapons (I can not stress "ALWAYS" enough)

4- Better safe than stupid (example- use your head; cut off theirs!)

5- Know where you will be sleeping before the sun sets. Be prepared to move out before daybreak.

6- Travel light- No dead weight (this goes for both objects you carry and people you're with. If someone can't pull their own, ditch them)

7- Save one bullet (do I need to elaborate?)

8- Dress smart (Tight-fitting, comfortable clothing, with large, accessible pockets, and preferably velcro-sneakers)

9- Do(n't) be a hero

10- Only pull the trigger if you're ok with every ghoul within hearing-distance knowing exactly where dinner is.

11- Stay nourished and healthy (if you're living off canned food, make sure to take multi-vitamins! And remember, if you get sick, there's no hospital to treat you)(and remember, always use a condom! You really don't want herpes during a zombie apocalypse)

12- Drive safe! (And by that of course I mean drive in a hummer or a large SUV with bars welded to all the windows, and if possible an escape hatch in the roof) Also remember the larger the vehicle the more gas it uses. Try to balance, Protection, range and reliability.

13- If you can avoid it, then do.

14- Never, ever, ever, under any circumstances shall you EVER go anywhere alone (yes, this includes the bathroom)(void if everyone you've ever known/loved is a zombie)

15- Enjoy the little things.

16- Your mind is your most powerful weapon. Think, preferably outside the box (ex- need meds but the hospitals are all filled with Zack? Go to the vet/a pet store!)

17- Leave no doubt- know your way out!

18- Know your environment, use it to your advantage.

19- Tread carefully (watch where you're going and NEVER walk backwards)

20- never give up

21- Calculus (Example- it takes you .75 seconds to hit a zombie in the head with a baseball bat and then prepare to strike again. If a zombie is withing 3 feet of you you can't wind up for a successful kiss-swing. It takes a zombie 3 seconds to walk 2 feet. The situation: you have 5 zombies walking towards you. Before you even prepare your first strike, look at the distance between each of them and determine if it will be possible for one of them to get within 3 feet of you while you dispatch the others. Plan out your kill order and know when you're going to need to back up (but remember rule 19!))

22- Double tap

23. Think outside the box. Example; fleeing survivors have raided the drug stores, hospitals, and doctor's offices and left you behind with no medicine. Solution, go to the pet store. A big chain pet store has everything from vitamins to sedatives (be VERY careful converting dosages).


I know there are more I'm just currently to lazy to find them.

I don't think it's sufficient to tell people to ignore it, that just because it's a word it shouldn't hurt them. As human beings, we tend to care about what others, individuals, groups, or society in general, think about us. One needs to feel as if they're being spoken and referred to with the appropriate respect in order to feel accepted. Maybe the words themselves don't hurt, but the intentions certainly do. So while I agree that context is everything, I don't see how you can just brush it off when somebody calls you lazy and means it negatively. Do you not care at all about whether that person respects you? What if it was a loved one calling you lazy? Would that not hurt at all?


And FlowersIn HisHair, you're right, people don't say "Jewish" and mean "anything a bit crap". It's actually used derogatorily in very specific situations when referring to somebody who is acting self-servingly. Eg. "You Jew-ed me," or "You ripped me off, don't be such a Jew". Given the obvious negative connotation behind these statements, and the clear connection between the derogatory use of the word Jew and stereotypes about Jews, I can't imagine any Jew hearing the word being use that way without feeling bad.


Which leads me back to the original conversation. I don't actually think the word "gay" is used to mean "anything a bit crap". I think it's meant to indicate that somebody is being "lame" (and yes, I know there's a slight irony in my use of the word. And not just lame, but acting like a pansy, in a non-masculine way. While the use of the word is often more general, it is most commonly to refer to someone who is acting in a way befitting the negative stereotype about "gay" people. It's not just a harmless word that has a general meaning of crappiness, but one that only has meaning because of the existing negative and harmful stereotypes about "gay" people.

However, just because people use Jew or Gay in a negative way, we don't let them have the words and declare them off limits. We continue to use it in an appropriate and respectful way. If people decide to use it in the negative way, that's might be their choice, but their use might infer something about the degree to which they accept and support certain harmful stereotypes. I'm not sure that I agree with Savage that the word is harmless.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
I do hate to disagree with Mr Savage, who speaks very well about the practicalities of sex, and whose opinion and good sense I generally trust and revere. But to dismiss this as simply the "evolution of language" is damaging, and in fact misses the point. The use of the word "gay" to mean anything "a bit generally rubbish" is itself founded on homophobia. Kids call things they don't like "gay" because they consider homosexuality to be undesirable; now how is that supposed to make gay kids, reluctant to come out for fear of persecution, feel about what they are? What if "Jewish", or "female" came to mean "anything a bit generally crap"? Would there be a serious and concerted effort to stamp out such a perversion of the language that a group had used to describe itself? You bet your ass there would.
And yes, "gay" used to mean something else, language evolves, blah blah. That's fine if the word in question doesn't identify a vulnerable group that is still fighting for acceptance and equality on an individual and global level.

I see your point, and I would never want a kid to feel picked on, or alone. But if that's the way it works, then why doesn't gay still mean happy? And shouldn't gay kids be happy about the fact they're called happy? No, because the meaning of the word changed. Just like it will again.
See, what needs to happen is, you have to let the word move on. If we keep acting like the words "gay" or "fag" are bad, then they always will be. They will never, ever, ever, ever, ever just go away.
I'm incredibly lazy. I've learned not to get offended when people call me that. Even if they mean it in a negative way. What we should really be teaching people is that WORDS CAN'T HURT YOU. We need to move past the era of incantations and spells.
If what you're suggesting actually happened, that the words "female" or "jewish" came to mean "anything a bit generally crap", then people would use those words precisely because they offended people. And the more anyone tried to "stamp them out", they would just become more and more powerful. Seriously.

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:

I do hate to disagree with Mr Savage, who speaks very well about the practicalities of sex, and whose opinion and good sense I generally trust and revere. But to dismiss this as simply the "evolution of language" is damaging, and in fact misses the point. The use of the word "gay" to mean anything "a bit generally rubbish" is itself founded on homophobia. Kids call things they don't like "gay" because they consider homosexuality to be undesirable; now how is that supposed to make gay kids, reluctant to come out for fear of persecution, feel about what they are? What if "Jewish", or "female" came to mean "anything a bit generally crap"? Would there be a serious and concerted effort to stamp out such a perversion of the language that a group had used to describe itself? You bet your ass there would.
And yes, "gay" used to mean something else, language evolves, blah blah. That's fine if the word in question doesn't identify a vulnerable group that is still fighting for acceptance and equality on an individual and global level.


I see your point, and I would never want a kid to feel picked on, or alone. But if that's the way it works, then why doesn't gay still mean happy? And shouldn't gay kids be happy about the fact they're called happy? No, because the meaning of the word changed. Just like it will again.

See, what needs to happen is, you have to let the word move on. If we keep acting like the words "gay" or "fag" are bad, then they always will be. They will never, ever, ever, ever, ever just go away.

I'm incredibly lazy. I've learned not to get offended when people call me that. Even if they mean it in a negative way. What we should really be teaching people is that WORDS CAN'T HURT YOU. We need to move past the era of incantations and spells.

If what you're suggesting actually happened, that the words "female" or "jewish" came to mean "anything a bit generally crap", then people would use those words precisely because they offended people. And the more anyone tried to "stamp them out", they would just become more and more powerful. Seriously.

@bareboards2 to your comments directly relating to me.

The title was deliberately over the top. The word doesn't carry as much weight outside of the US as it does there, and it was deliberately chosen to cause as much outrage as possible (but not this kind of outrage). Lann did want me to call it "Cooter punching", but I said fuck that and went all out. I'm sorry that you felt particularly hurt by it, it was a joke.

The description is also a joke of course - I have a persona to maintain, and boy do I maintain it. I do think you have a thin skin, and I'm sympathetic - I really am, but I think you should say your piece in the comment of the video "I really don't like this and this is why (...)" or, if it's title and description you have a problem with, you could speak directly with the poster in private PMs. In this case moi.

Regarding the video larsarus posted, I don't like it either. I love my nordic brother (or you know, as much as you can love a Swede.. ), but that video was a lot worse than the one I posted, in my view, because it seems like the girl isn't in on the joke. So that's a whole other level of abuse/violence.

I'm not sure I even saw the thumbnail of the boob video before I promoted it, so I didn't troll you with that deliberately. It wasn't even aimed at you, it was aimed at the many white knights who said "it's never, ever, ever OK that a women is hurt by anything" (I wanted to say violence, but really it's too harsh of a word for what happened in the jousting video).

I'll end with this. I'm sorry that you felt so bad about the incidents. I'm sorry that the other people who decried the stuff felt bad. The title/description was over the top by design, so it was bound that some people would be pissed about it - I'm OK with that - that was the joke. It'll probably happen again some time, maybe not by me, but maybe by me. By then I hope you'll take it for what it is, or at least have built up more of a resistance to it. Or hell, just grab me by the collar in a PM and say what's on your mind.

This would never ever ever be broadcast on US TV

I like this idea, I don't sift while I'm working, but I do sift at home. I find the NSFW tag ambiguous in that environment. Like if my kids are up and buzzing around the house I don't mind something that's NSFW-L.. but I don't want to watch NSFW-S. And I never ever ever want to watch NSFW-V.

>> ^jonny:

Seems like what you want here is to make NSFW more specific - NSFW-V (violence), NSFW-L (language), NSFW-N (nudity), NSFW-S (sexual content), etc. Then they can be combined, for instance, "Holy shit! That guy's head just got blown clear the fuck off!" = NSFW-VL.

have you ever had your eyebrows waxed? shit fucking hurts. especially if you're 5 and don't understand why it's even happening.
not to mention the psychological message that shit sends to your developing 5 year old girl brain.

my daughters rocking a unibrow. i decided i'd tell her about waxing the day she cried because some jerks made fun of it and let her chose if she wanted to do it. thankfully, i've raised a bad ass secure little girl who who just thinks people who make fun of other people have either watched too much tv and are missing several heart and brain cells or have parents who are mean to them and other people. so when she gets made fun of she's just kind of like "....... really??".

i hope she stays that secure and never ever ever waxes that shit off.

also, i wonder what the emotional fortitude and personal security of a little girl who's been waxed and teased and permed and crammed in ridiculous outfits and forced to dance to be told she's beautiful, looks like.

>> ^joedirt:

Mother shaves 5 year old boys head! CHILD ABUSE!
Mother puts daughters hair in dreadlocks! CHILD ABUSE!
GTFO this is such fictional outrage.

Maybe people laugh so they won't slit their own wrists? Kind of like how, in Iraq, I stood naked in a shower. Mortars flew in, and all I thought about was how cold it was, how my dick was shriveled, and how, this time, I was not going to lay down for safety.

The officer is one of two people. Someone who needs help---and badly. Just like an adict. Or someone who was always sick.

>> ^peggedbea:
i've got several. but this is the one i will share with you, because it disgusts me the most.
I worked the night shift, performing CT scans on patients out of the ER. A stab wound comes in, escorted by the police. While I'm working on the dude, the officer decides to tell me the HILARIOUS story of how this man got stabbed. He was beating his wife. severely. his 17 year old son with down's syndrome had enough and pulled out a steak knife, defended his mother and stabbed his dad. Then, he went up to his room and slit his own wrists. The jerk cop thought the image of a 17 year old with downs, stabbing his abusive father and then attempting suicide was HILARIOUS. he was doubled over laughing and calling the kid "corky" (and explained to me it's because they can't say "retard" over their radios). and impersonating him with his best "retard" voice and mannerisms.
Is this every cop? certainly, not.
I also dated a victim's assistance cop out of curiosity. I thought being a victim's rights advocate would make him more interesting. But I found out it only made him desensitized to some horrific things. Like, being in the medical field, i'm desensitized to blood, and poop, and vomit, and old people dying, body parts and stuff. it gives me a pretty raunchy sense of humor that probably makes some people uncomfortable.
but i never ever ever want to become desensitized to things like child rape.
I think that's the core of why people "don't like" a lot of cops. The job necessitates the abandonment of some socially appropriate emotions, thoughts and feelings. being raised by a cop, you are probably totally used to the attitude that many cops seem imbued with. being raised by hypersenstive people with mood disorders, burnt out hippies, trans gendered people and teenage drug addicts, i'm not used to the kind of world view one must have to be a cop. and i don't like it.
so yes, i've met cops who seem very awesome. i work out with a juvenile probation officer who i think is an amazing person. i don't think every cop is a socially inept dickbag. but i have certainly had more negative experiences with cops than positive ones. but i think it's for the most part, a world view issue. because i don't think MOST cops are abusive or anything.
though, i do think our criminal justice system is fucking broken and has fascist tendencies, i realize that's not the fault of anyone individual cop.
>> ^Shepppard:
>> ^Matthu:
>> ^lantern53:
If every police officer in this country acted this way, there would be armed revolution.
But these are two shitbirds out of hundreds of thousands of honest cops who risk their lives to keep the peace and try to preserve justice.
Don't judge thousands of cops on the basis of these two idiots who should be canned...or caned.
Would you like to be judged by the action of one of your co-workers?
Don't be a knee-jerk clone and try to paint all police officers by the actions of these two.

Lol... Getting so sick of hearing this bullshit copy pasta. How many videos of abusive cops need to be put up before they're considered evidence of a flawed justice system.
You're the clone, open your eyes. If police officers continue to act this way there will be an armed revolution.
And I'm not judging hundreds of thousands of cops on the basis of these two idiots. I'm judging the system which creates an unacceptable amount of abusers.

I was staying out of this until I saw this comment.
Your logic is flawed.
There are ~800,000 law enforcement officers in the U.S., you get to see one bad cop in a video every once in a while. Let's say 250 of these videos come out a year, that still leaves 799750 cops that didn't make it to youtube for doing something stupid.
It's hilarious how you call the handful of us defending police officers clones because we aren't judging them all because of a handfull of idiots. And you can try to deny it all you want, but that's exactly what you're doing.
Yes, there are idiots, and yes, those idiots don't deserve to be on the force, but that doesn't justify hating everyone who wears a badge. In my entire lifespan with my dad being a cop, I've only ever known -one- "bad" cop, and the reason he was a "bad" cop was because he commit credit card fraud. All other interactions I've ever had have been more than pleasant, including the one who pulled me over because I was driving without headlights on. She found out I was driving without a license, and because I was actually polite about it and not an ass, she let me go on the grounds that I had someone come and pick me up.
Open YOUR eyes, what interactions, if ANY, have you ever had with a cop other then watching them on youtube? I'm all ears.

i've got several. but this is the one i will share with you, because it disgusts me the most.

I worked the night shift, performing CT scans on patients out of the ER. A stab wound comes in, escorted by the police. While I'm working on the dude, the officer decides to tell me the HILARIOUS story of how this man got stabbed. He was beating his wife. severely. his 17 year old son with down's syndrome had enough and pulled out a steak knife, defended his mother and stabbed his dad. Then, he went up to his room and slit his own wrists. The jerk cop thought the image of a 17 year old with downs, stabbing his abusive father and then attempting suicide was HILARIOUS. he was doubled over laughing and calling the kid "corky" (and explained to me it's because they can't say "retard" over their radios). and impersonating him with his best "retard" voice and mannerisms.

Is this every cop? certainly, not.

I also dated a victim's assistance cop out of curiosity. I thought being a victim's rights advocate would make him more interesting. But I found out it only made him desensitized to some horrific things. Like, being in the medical field, i'm desensitized to blood, and poop, and vomit, and old people dying, body parts and stuff. it gives me a pretty raunchy sense of humor that probably makes some people uncomfortable.
but i never ever ever want to become desensitized to things like child rape.

I think that's the core of why people "don't like" a lot of cops. The job necessitates the abandonment of some socially appropriate emotions, thoughts and feelings. being raised by a cop, you are probably totally used to the attitude that many cops seem imbued with. being raised by hypersenstive people with mood disorders, burnt out hippies, trans gendered people and teenage drug addicts, i'm not used to the kind of world view one must have to be a cop. and i don't like it.

so yes, i've met cops who seem very awesome. i work out with a juvenile probation officer who i think is an amazing person. i don't think every cop is a socially inept dickbag. but i have certainly had more negative experiences with cops than positive ones. but i think it's for the most part, a world view issue. because i don't think MOST cops are abusive or anything.

though, i do think our criminal justice system is fucking broken and has fascist tendencies, i realize that's not the fault of anyone individual cop.

>> ^Shepppard:

>> ^Matthu:
>> ^lantern53:
If every police officer in this country acted this way, there would be armed revolution.
But these are two shitbirds out of hundreds of thousands of honest cops who risk their lives to keep the peace and try to preserve justice.
Don't judge thousands of cops on the basis of these two idiots who should be canned...or caned.
Would you like to be judged by the action of one of your co-workers?
Don't be a knee-jerk clone and try to paint all police officers by the actions of these two.

Lol... Getting so sick of hearing this bullshit copy pasta. How many videos of abusive cops need to be put up before they're considered evidence of a flawed justice system.
You're the clone, open your eyes. If police officers continue to act this way there will be an armed revolution.
And I'm not judging hundreds of thousands of cops on the basis of these two idiots. I'm judging the system which creates an unacceptable amount of abusers.

I was staying out of this until I saw this comment.
Your logic is flawed.
There are ~800,000 law enforcement officers in the U.S., you get to see one bad cop in a video every once in a while. Let's say 250 of these videos come out a year, that still leaves 799750 cops that didn't make it to youtube for doing something stupid.
It's hilarious how you call the handful of us defending police officers clones because we aren't judging them all because of a handfull of idiots. And you can try to deny it all you want, but that's exactly what you're doing.
Yes, there are idiots, and yes, those idiots don't deserve to be on the force, but that doesn't justify hating everyone who wears a badge. In my entire lifespan with my dad being a cop, I've only ever known -one- "bad" cop, and the reason he was a "bad" cop was because he commit credit card fraud. All other interactions I've ever had have been more than pleasant, including the one who pulled me over because I was driving without headlights on. She found out I was driving without a license, and because I was actually polite about it and not an ass, she let me go on the grounds that I had someone come and pick me up.
Open YOUR eyes, what interactions, if ANY, have you ever had with a cop other then watching them on youtube? I'm all ears.