>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^blankfist:
>> ^ChaosEngine:
I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it , there's nothing wrong with that either.
i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)

I'll be sure to pass your message along to the patients who claim it helps with their cancer.
Nice appeal to pity.
They can claim it all they want. Some of them probably also claim that crystals and homoeopathy help too. Doesn't make it true.
Look, I'm not saying it isn't possible that marijuana has some medical benefits, simply that it should be subject to the same medical study as other cures. Meanwhile, let's give up the false piety of "we just want to help cancer patients." Yeah right, that may be a positive side effect but have the honesty to admit you just want to get stoned, and have the moral courage to admit that's not a bad thing.


Don't give a shit about any of that. I know Marijuana helps with pain, and for people suffering from pain problems who can't play with their kids or do really anything it means a lot. So yeah that's a huge benefit.

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^ChaosEngine:
I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it , there's nothing wrong with that either.
i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)

I'll be sure to pass your message along to the patients who claim it helps with their cancer.

Nice appeal to pity.

They can claim it all they want. Some of them probably also claim that crystals and homoeopathy help too. Doesn't make it true.

Look, I'm not saying it isn't possible that marijuana has some medical benefits, simply that it should be subject to the same medical study as other cures. Meanwhile, let's give up the false piety of "we just want to help cancer patients." Yeah right, that may be a positive side effect but have the honesty to admit you just want to get stoned, and have the moral courage to admit that's not a bad thing.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it , there's nothing wrong with that either.
i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)


I'll be sure to pass your message along to the patients who claim it helps with their cancer.

I do find it ironic that the same people who see "alternative medicine" for the bullshit it is, will often defend "medical" marijuana. Just admit you want get high! It's no worse than getting drunk, and as long as you're not a dick about it*, there's nothing wrong with that either.

* i.e. being impaired when you should be competent (drivers, pilots, looking after children or infirm people)

>> ^notarobot:

And if Al Capone was alive today he'd probably grow pot and he'd probably be pouring tonnes of money into this woman's reelection campaign. Prohibition is very profitable for the producers.


Fuck them. The voters chose this...suing to stop democracy is disgusting.

http://news.yahoo.com/justice-department-obama-reverse-stance-medical-marijuana-raids-185704803.html

Fixed. >> ^burdturgler:

Keeps saying "encoding in progress..."

Medical marijuana has been legal somewhere in America since 1996. Given this fact, I should think that there would be MOUNTAINS of evidence making the case that it destroys lives, makes society less safe, is a health hazard, etc and that it CLEARLY should be illegal.

And yet I never see anything remotely resembling evidence or studies supporting this position. Never.

It's fucking bullshit. Period.

Apologies for stating the obvious...

I'm not quite sure if they are for or against medical marijuana based on the lyrics.

Although Montana is rather conservative about most things, on the marijuana issue it is suprisingly liberal. There is medical marijuana there for one thing. It's just about as easy to get medical pot in Montana as it is in California. They also have shops that sell all the latest and greatest strains, and even delivery service! It's probably the proliferation of medical marijuana throughout the state which contributed to this, as well as Montana being extremely anti-government. The natives there don't like the Government telling them what to do, or how to run their lives. It may be the nexus of these two things which caused this to happen.

It was close. As a nice coda, Arizona just voted for medical marijuana.

Marijuana is bound to be RE-legalized in the next 5-10 years. Public opinion is rolling. Ha.

Might be a dupey dupe of this one:

http://videosift.com/video/Homer-Simpson-and-Medical-Marijuana

But that one appears dead (I'll mark it now).

The medical marijuana people do have some legitimate complaints about prop 19 (assuming my information is accurate).

Prop 19 restricts growing to a 5'x5' area per property (not per person). Medical marijuana "patients" currently have no such restriction. Prop 19 also imposes penalties for smoking marijuana in the vicinity anyone under 21, which is not currently a restriction (imagine the same restriction on alcohol or cigarettes). Medical MJ patients are exempt from some restrictions in Prop 19, but I think they're still subject to the grow space and "minors in the vicinity" parts.

If I remember correctly it also makes it illegal to buy weed from anyone who isn't licensed to sell it (though I'm not sure about it being given as a gift).


Anyway, it looks like it will pass, so I'm curious to see which parts are heavily enforced or otherwise ignored.

You have been awarded 1 Power Point for fixing the embed code for Dead Pool video Ann Coulter On Medical Marijuana. Thank you for helping maintain VideoSift's reliability.

^Winstonfield_Pennypacker
Arizona, California, Misouri, Florida... It doesn't matter. There are MANY examples, and the point is Obama's hyocrisy. He selectively chooses to stomp on things he doesn't like, while at the same time he gives free passes to real violations.

What is Obama stomping in California? Are you talking about the federal judge ruling that Prop 8 violates the equal protection clause of the constitution? Obama has mostly respected California state laws regarding medical marijuana, which seems like something conservatives would normally support (states' rights and such). We'll see how he feels about legalization in November though.

In Arizona Obama is saying that those laws violate the supremacy clause of that US Constitution. Of course the "stomping" he is doing involves challenging the laws in court, which seems like a "legitimate" way of going about it. If the supreme court disagrees then so be it.

I'll spare further itemization.

You talk about Obama doing unpopular things, but you've also said in the past that the right thing should be done even if it is highly unpopular (it was in reference to slashing social security/medicare/military). Obviously you disagree with him on what is right, but I'm surprised to see you dwell on poll numbers to such a degree regarding public policy decisions.


...dud of a president knows he's being a two-faced slimeball...

I know I've seen you criticize others for name-calling as being intellectually lazy. You like to do the same for public figures you disagree with (especially Obama for some reason). You might find more people receptive to your ideas without the extra garbage cluttering it up.



No, you don't have to disclose where money comes from.

Fiscal issues are some of my biggest complaints about Democrats. Yes, it's nice to want to help people, but there just isn't enough talk on the liberal end about the budget. Hopefully this is an area where more Americans will demand attention (without the social-conservative baggage).


You won't.

We're spending too much on the wars... we shouldn't be trying to win a military victory in Afghanistan. We've lost more people in the wars than the attacks that led to them. I wish Obama would rely less on military power, but I believe he will continue for political reasons.

I also think Obama is pushing stimulus because he fears what would happen to his popularity if he chose a plan that involved large spending cuts or if he allowed a large employer to go out of business. I'm not sure he would do something he thought was right if he also thought doing so would lead to conservatives gaining significant ground.

The man isn't perfect, but in the last election he was faaar better than the alternative. I can only imagine what McCain would do about the Mosque or anything else given his recent behavior. If conservatives put someone sane up there then I might vote for them, but at this point it isn't looking too likely.

Maybe Jesse Ventura will run. ;-)