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CNN: Christians Are Hypocrites

Countdown to the End of the World (Religion Talk Post)

Bernie Sanders slaps down Rand Paul: Health care as slavery

dystopianfuturetoday says...

^That is all theoretical bullshit that never plays out in real life. In real life, privatization and deregulation lead to unemployment, inflation, massive income inequity and civil rights abuse. Check out Chile or Argentina or Poland or Russia or Brazil or Iraq or America or New Orleans or......

Spit out that Kool Aide, brother! You are a cool dude, and I don't want to see you get diabetes!

Duped video posts that go BIG (Engineering Talk Post)

dag says...

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I have to admit that I do get butt-hurt when someone calls dupe on me. My first reaction? "That's it - I'm shutting the whole thing down and passing out kool-aid dixie cups - don't forget the children!"

I think it's a pretty healthy reaction. Better out than in, no?

My Push up Bra will help me get my man

Should unemployed Americans buy Apple gear? Must see!!

Canada Gets its Very Own Fox News

Former CIA Analyst Schools CNN Host

bmacs27 says...

Wait... did that schmuck just refer to Turkey as an Arab dictatorship whose people hate them? This guy is out to lunch. He's had a little too much of the Ron Paul kool-aid.

Further, you intervene where you can, not to be consistent. A handful of tomahawk missiles stood no chance of doing anything in Yemen, or Bahrain. Also, we may yet pay Al-Assad a visit depending on how the situation progresses there. Gaddafi was shelling cities of his own citizens. A couple tomahawks stands a better chance of ending that than stopping police forces from firing on a handful of demonstrators. To me, the solution here is to try and quickly organize talks to settle with a multi-state solution. US ground troops are off the table. Obama has been clear on this. If anyone goes in, it'll be the limeys and the frogs, and a few token Arabs. It's their war. They needed our air/cruise missile support to quickly slow the march, but that's all we agreed to do.

This isn't about American oil at all. It's the Europeans that get 85% of Qaddafi's oil. This is about western Europe's energy independence from Moscow, and trying to position NATO as in support of the recent wave of Arab uprisings.

Aren't Atheists just as dogmatic as born again Christians?

bmacs27 says...

>> ^AnimalsForCrackers:

Maybe I'm just weird like that for being puzzled here, but if something is "outside of science" or "outside our universe", then by what magical method of knowing do people claim to know or suspect it exists in the first place? Shouldn't the most parsimonious answer be a provisional designation of non-existence until shown otherwise?
Something that can be asserted without evidence can reasonably be dismissed without evidence. It's not up to the unbelievers to prove a negative.
I understand people do not want to appear to be extreme or dogmatic, but an appeal to the middle ground (a 50/50 split probability for or against; a false equivalence) in the name of moderation, is still fallacious.


It's not entirely clear that people mean something that is "outside of science," and I certainly don't see many claiming that their god is "outside the universe." Most claim to have had direct personal experience with a deity. Many of whom are people I trust. Further, they seem to be honestly recounting their experience, and seem to have no motivation to deceive me (unlike claims of spaghetti monsters or martian teapots). While typically I wouldn't consider such reports particularly strong evidence of anything, it is certainly as strong (if not stronger) than the evidence opposing the existence of a deity, which are typically inferred from vague concepts like "parsimony" (aka Bayesian kool-aid). All evidence of existence (e.g. your existence) is tenuous at best, and all of it is inferred from internal mental states. That's why I find that the null model is typically derived from commonsense, not any hard and fast rules about existence or nonexistence. In this particular case, I find that people are relatively split. I have accordingly split my prior.

Newt Gingrich's Libya Positions, Then and Now

VoodooV says...

We really shouldn't call them Republicans anymore, because they're just Anti-Democrats now. They take the opposite position of whatever the Dems do.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If one political party was somehow responsible for curing cancer, the other party would immediately start a campaign that cancer was good.

The problem though is that it doesn't matter how much you point out the hypocrisy of these people. We're talking about Fox News here. You don't go to Fox News for news...you go there to drink the Kool-Aide. If you're watching Fox News, you don't care about facts and logic, so any evidence of hypocrisy is going to be dismissed and spun away. They're just going to tell you what you want to hear and perpetuate the echo chamber.

I think it's hilariously ironic about how they're trying to paint him as a Bush-style interventionalist cowboy.

Glenn Beck - MSNBC Anti-God Network

Louis CK - Videogames, TV, Nutrition

kceaton1 says...

The only thing that's wrong, but right in "more healthy" aspect is the Pepsi (unless that's the ONLY way you get your mass water). The "eight/six/whatever glasses of water" a day is bunk science. Water is in almost everything you could eat or drink. Otherwise a microwave would be useless. Pepsi is mostly water, but the high-fructose corn syrup is the horrific part and the sodium to a lesser extent.

I'd much rather buy Kool-Aid or Tang as it's easier for the body to digest and you can decide the concentration level.

The one thing I hate about soft-drinks is that I like to have more water and less syrup--it becomes sickening at normal levels. Which is why I think 7-11, Maverick, Holiday, or wherever else you go tastes better from the fountain as it's usually toned down syrup wise.)

Everything else he brings up is dead on. Anyway, back too teh funny!

Christine O'Donnell: Evolution is a Myth

RFlagg says...

It might be just the local tea baggers here.
To be fair they haven't used the Jesus is coming soon as an excuse to do as they will, but it is something the locals seem to believe. After the election of Obama they actually thought that perhaps that will make Jesus come back sooner...I didn't realize god was so weak that his planned time for sending his son back could be altered by the actions of man, then again they seem to think god is to weak to do his job of convicting people of sins and punishing them for them, so they have to do that work for him... Anyhow, Jesus coming back soon seems to be a common thought, so I extended that to them as an excuse for using fossil fuels.
Very few of the tea baggers I know will acknowledge that global warming has anything to do with human activity. Those that do seem to think it is a very small nearly unmeasurable part of it, with cow farts having far more effect.
None of the tea baggers I know acknowledge the scientific origins of the universe, they may not be young Earth creationist, but they all are of the "design speaks of a designer" mentality. Of the old Earth creationist locally, some go with the gap theory, but most go with a day to god is as a thousand years or more to us. I personally don't know anyone who is a geocentrist.
None of the tea baggers here, home to people have a "MASTERS DEGREE IN COMMUNICATION" run for Stark County Treasurer would seem to believe that the movement is funded by any big companies, and that it is purely a grass roots movement.
Nothing I've seen of the tea baggers on the sift or news makes sense though. I just can't work out their thought process without resorting to religious dogma, and the firm belief that the far right Republican's are the only true Christians and the only ones who should be elected.
I was never a tea bagger, but I used to drink deep of the same sort of kool-aid and glad I am out of that movement now. So it may be indeed a cultural issue... We may just have more idiots incapable of independent thought here. I have been a sad panda for them for some time.

>> ^peggedbea:

yeah yeah ok... sure
but the oil and natural gas barons who fund this tea bagging nonsense publicly acknowledge science and the fossil origins of fossil fuels.
example: i live in on top of a previously impossible to tap natural gas shale. they just discovered how to tap the shit out of that gas. the shale is a huge deal here and has brought a lot development and growth to my adorable little cowtown in the last 3 years or so. so much so in fact, that the natural gas companies funded massive renovations to our science museum. so a room in the museum is now dedicated to the science of natural gas. one of the attractions is a 10 minute long 4D movie about how natural gas got underneath fort worth, and how these genius's are getting it out. the movie takes you back in time all the way to the big bang and fast forwards to different periods, clearly acknowledging that the earth is far far far far older than 6,000 years and that god didn't necessarily have anything to do with it.
soooo, i understand that shaping and funding a movement that denies climate change is good for them, but a wonderful justification for denying the science is the godly origins of the earth... but at the same time they're spending thousands to educate an entire city on the ancientness and godlessness of fossil fuels.....
so nothing about this fits. i've never met a teabagger (and i'm probably more inclined to meet more teabaggers than most of the sift because of my geography) that 1. didn't deny the scientific origins of the universe 2. didn't deny climate change and when hard pressed with facts, didn't resort to "jesus is coming back" and 3. didn't looooooove the shit out of some fossil fuels ...... are they really really just too stupid to notice that the circle doesn't close? this makes me sad.
or is it just a cultural thing?? like, texas has been an oil rich state for over a century now. oil is just kind of embedded in our culture and is just accepted as something positive and a point of pride. and the discussion doesn't go much further than that. i grew up in a city who's football mascot was a fucking oil rig. when i think of symbols that mean texas to me, i see an oil rig. oil=texas. texas=home. home=good. done. thought circle complete. i hope that's it. and it's not just outrageous stupidity and a short few years of brain washing alone. i'm sad.
>> ^RFlagg:
Because Jesus is coming again soon to rapture them away so they don't care what they do to the earth, besides god gave them dominion over the Earth to rape and pillage it as they please. They don't believe in anthropological global warming anyhow since they don't believe in science, though some of them believe in peak oil which is why they think we need to drill "our own oil" by international companies selling it on the international market... Also he put the oil in the earth already made along with fossils, and accelerated light so that a galaxy 12 billion light years away can be seen now even though the universe is only 6,500 years old, and all that other prof that he had nothing to do with the creation of the universe. It is that whole god chose the foolish things to confound the wise... and he hid things from the wise and learned and revealed them to children... and all the other excuses they have for explaining such things.
>> ^peggedbea:
i'm super fascinated with how evolution denying teabaggers justify their raging boner for fossil fuels.



The Combover or How to Buy Beer by Two Under-age Teens.

blankfist says...

@raith, the airlines would rightfully make it company policy for the pilots (or any employee) not to be intoxicated during the hours they need to be operational. I wouldn't want to get into a plane where someone is intoxicated. That would be silly.

You're putting words in my mouth. I was never arguing this: "Your arguing that even with these laws, we have these deaths. So your solution is removing these laws altogether?" No. I was responding to Shepppard's remark, and I quote, "There NEEDS to be a deterrent for something that's quite capable of being fatal", and I was showing how it doesn't work as a deterrent.

As for your "bombs on the plane" analogy: airlines typically are owned and operated privately, and they should determine what is allowed on the plane. No one will fly on a plane that allows passengers to bring bombs. It would be a terrible business strategy. Just like no one would want to fly with an airlines that allowed its pilots to drink before takeoff.

Driving on public streets is completely different than flying a commercial plane. It's a completely different paradigm, because the streets are (supposedly) publicly owned and paid for, so we all have a right to use them.

"Anyway, how difficult is it to NOT get drunk before you drive?"


You and Shepppard keep using the term "drunk", but just above the legal limit isn't drunk. To a high school girl having her first Kool•Aid and Vodka drink, it may be. To a fifty year old Navy veteran who sips whiskey all day long, it probably isn't.

Also, don't confuse my stance on this matter as me condoning drinking and driving. I understand it's not good behavior, but I just don't like our desire as a society to punish people for their behavior instead of when they create victims. It's called social engineering, and we've come to accept it as part of civilized society which is dangerous. Examples of social engineering are sin taxes for alcohol & cigarettes and tax incentives for marriage. It's not the hallmark of a free society.

Olbermann: There is No "Ground Zero Mosque"

bobknight33 says...

Olberman / MSNBC and all it Leftest GE ilk controlled media outlets are so misleading. Go drink the Kool aid. Thank God there are clear thinking accurate fair and balanced news and commentary on FOX.

This is the kind of misleading "news" that fools the un intelligent and let them think they are correct.

The placing of the mosque anywhere near this area is an insult to America.


Hey nerunner do you even know what America is?



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