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ChaosEngine (Member Profile)

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Man loses it over his wife trying to say eyes.

Man loses it over his wife trying to say eyes.

New Zealanders vs Aussies

Samantha Bee - Disturbing the PC

ChaosEngine says...

I don't mind if they don't know things, and you're completely right in that I don't know 0.1% of relevant history, be it American, Kiwi or anywhere else.

OTOH, because I don't know said history I don't go around comparing people to historical figures I don't know about.

I wouldn't compare Hillary to Kate Sheppard, for example, because I only barely know who she is.

harlequinn said:

They don't know because most people don't know most things.

You probably don't know 0.1% of relevant American history (I know I don't). That you happen to have known who Andrew Jackson was is just simple coincidence.

You're very correct about PC not stopping shit (in the context of the USA). They have constitutionally protected free speech so they can say what they want with very few exceptions.

How to respond to bigotry with tolerance and integrity.

ChaosEngine says...

In general, there's a pretty friendly rivalry between the two countries, mostly around sport (we beat them at rugby, they beat us at cricket).

But the countries are actually politically and culturally pretty close, and there's a real sense of comradeship in relation to shared military history (see ANZACs).

All that said, there are some genuine issues of contention, especially right now. The two countries both allow citizens of the other to live and work there. Given that Australia is the larger economy, this mostly means kiwis going to Aussie looking for work.

So there is a perception among some Australians that Kiwis are somehow both stealing their jobs and also lazy dole bludgers (hey, no one said bigots had to be internally consistent).

In fact, this is completely the opposite of reality. Australians who come to NZ are basically NZ citizens in all but name. They are entitled to unemplyoment benefit, whereas Kiwis in Australia do not have the same benefits.

There is also currently an issue around detention and deportation of Kiwis, where Kiwis in Australia (many of whom have lived most of their lives in Australia) who have been committed of crimes are being deported back to NZ after completing their sentences. This often means they are held in refugee-style detention centres while awaiting deportation and are being sent back to a country away from their families.

In this specific instance, I'm guessing it's because the kid in the video is of Maori or Polynesian descent.

Disclaimer: I'm an Irish guy living in NZ who spent two years in Sydney, so this is a slightly outsider take.

Januari said:

Wait... so Australian's have a big problem with people from New Zealand?...

I was a little confused by this? Is this just her unique bigotry or is this a semi-common theme?

I sort of assumed she meant anyone not white.

How to respond to bigotry with tolerance and integrity.

How Similar Are French and Italian?

ChaosEngine says...

That was really interesting.
I can speak some very basic high school level french.

Although I haven't spoken it in many years, when I was in Italy last year, I found I could read almost anything I needed to in Italian (i.e. basic things like signs, menus, descriptions on paintings).

And even though, French and Spanish are less closely related, I found written Spanish was relatively easy to understand too.

Still haven't mastered kiwi yet.

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Bernie Sanders VS. The Patriot Act

Payback says...

New Zealand having fewer gun deaths than America I'm pretty sure has less to do with gun laws than the fact it's almost entirely populated by New Zealanders.

Ever try to piss off a Kiwi without resorting to getting them drunk first?

Virtually impossible.

Christchurch earthquake and cliff collapse

Mammaltron says...

"It does us a power of good to remind ourselves that we live on two volcanic rocks where two tectonic plates meet, in a somewhat lonely stretch of windswept ocean just above the Roaring Forties. If you want drama - you've come to the right place."

Memory attributed that to David Lange like most kiwi quotes, but apparently it was Geoffrey Palmer.

Slavoj Zizek: PC is a more dangerous form of totalitarianism

ChaosEngine says...

Jokes on you... I'm not a kiwi; I'm Irish.

And if I was sober I would have some kind of epic burn for you, but as it is, I'm way too fucked to care.

Truckchase said:

It was all tounge-in-cheek, but Kiwis can't understand that; as part of any given nation in the world you are exactly the stereotype I imagine you to be, and thus I have remotely stripped you of your self-perceived humanity. I'm guessing you thought you were real, but you're not. You never have been. You are a Kiwi, and thus are everything I think you should be. Bro.

Slavoj Zizek: PC is a more dangerous form of totalitarianism

Truckchase says...

It was all tounge-in-cheek, but Kiwis can't understand that; as part of any given nation in the world you are exactly the stereotype I imagine you to be, and thus I have remotely stripped you of your self-perceived humanity. I'm guessing you thought you were real, but you're not. You never have been. You are a Kiwi, and thus are everything I think you should be. Bro.

ChaosEngine said:

Cool story bro.

Get back to me when the drugs wear off.



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