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Swedish cops show NYPD how to subdue people w/ hurting them

Asmo says...

Yup, they were just randomly grabbed from a Wiki, and they sounded low but were damning enough already. That they are even higher isn't surprising in the slightest.

newtboy said:

The numbers I find are quite higher.....373 so far this year alone, not the 150 you show, 1100 last year, 768 in 2013...and even those higher numbers are lowballed and incomplete because there's no database of this information, the only way to compile it is to contact every police force in the country and ask them individually, and assume they give you honest numbers...which they simply don't Usually they won't give any number. The FBI won't even use it's own statistics, because even THEY can't get a straight answer from the police, who have no obligation to keep the numbers at all.
http://killedbypolice.net/

Swedish cops show NYPD how to subdue people w/ hurting them

Asmo says...

I didn't say they were killing millions, I said they were trained to kill...

US police conflict resolution is at the point of a gun as the first step. Most other countries where a reasonable rule of law exists teach conflict resolution prior to drawing weapons on people.

APC's, body armour, fully automatic weapons etc are not the tools of a police force, they are the tools of an army, but somehow small towns now feature APC's and heavily armed under trained SWAT or tactical response forces. Even US military personal have made the comment, all of the equipment, none of the training or discipline. If you are armed to the teeth and taught to shoot first/ask questions later, it's no surprises that your death by cops tally is so high...

For example, total Australian police shootings in the period 2008-2011 (for a population of 25 odd million or 1/13th of the US) came to /drumroll .... 14

And 7 deaths in Victoria over that time raised eyebrows.

http://theconversation.com/shoot-to-kill-the-use-of-lethal-force-by-police-in-australia-34578

US police, on the other hand, eclipse that total every single year, often by more than the per capita average (often by much more than the per capita average).

2015 (total: 150)
2014 (total: 625)
2013 (total: 342)
2012 (total: 611)
2011 (total: 165)
2010 (total: 227)
2009 (total: 63)

And it's just amazing in how many of those cases, the words "cleared of wrong doing by the district attorney, city paid out to a civil trial for wrongful death" appear. Or "shot while running away", "shot while unarmed" etc.

And to be absolutely clear, I have nothing but respect for most of the people that choose to bear that duty, but they are being trained to go to the gun first and foremost. If that is the first and last tool to resolve conflict, it's no wonder there are so many deaths...

lantern53 said:

Oh, I'm sure Asmo is right...the police in the US are taught to kill people at every opportunity.

I suppose that makes for a big fail since the cops in the US are so inept at killing people. Out of 12 million arrests, 593 people killed by cops in 2014 with about 1/4 of those being black people. But because you can't turn on MSNBC w/o a rehash of Michael Brown or Eric Garner, people think this happens every 6 seconds on the street.

Someone do the math, because I suck at math, what percent is 593 of 12 million?

Swedish cops show NYPD how to subdue people w/ hurting them

Asmo says...

Heh, I know it's a joke, but it's funny how a police culture which promotes public safety over killing people results in police that aren't concerned about filming and the exposure it brings... ; )

littledragon_79 said:

Ppfftt, total rookies. They didn't even break any cameras.

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