Yeeaaaah, try that Jenna Jameson and make it look hawt.

Quite funny but "guys have Jenna Jameson"? Ah no, that's not something for us to be proud of, could have picked a more modern and not horrifically disfigured porn star.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I know that porn by that definition always existed, but comparing a grecian urn and a Jenna Jameson Blu-ray is hardly a comparison. The difference between ancient porn and today's is a difference of magnitude and pervasiveness.>> ^Ryjkyj:

Don't kid yourself Dag.
Porn has been prolific since men could write on cave walls. From fertility statues, to the walls at Pompeii, to "dancers" in strict religious countries, to the mail-order pics from the civil war, to the hairbrush-spanking-magazines of the 50's and 60's. Don't ever let anyone try to fool you into thinking that the world was at some point, more moral than it is now.
And let's not forget all the stuff that just flies around a person's mind.

Isn't he fucking Jenna Jameson now?

Jenna Jameson.

If that's what "sex on a spoon" is like, I think those girls are looking to become the Jenna Jameson of Fried Twinkies.

Shouldn't he be attacking his opponent instead of giving positive messages? What kind of bullshit is this? He should drop Biden and grab Jenna Jameson if he wants to win this election.

>> ^Maze:
I eagerly await the LHC experiment results.
That said, I'm having real trouble reading the title of this video as anything else but the LARGE HARDON COLLIDER.


Large Hardon Collider, also known as Jenna Jameson vs. the World's Largest Dildo, coming to an adult movie store near you.

You know Jenna Jameson isn't her real name, right?

Of course! It's really Jenna Lewinsky.

OMG, that was so awful, that I seriously need to swallow tons of anti-depressants and will have to watch Jenna Jameson vs Bill O’Reilly (http://www.videosift.com/video/Jenna-Jameson-on-OReilly-talks-about-Feminism-and-Porn) 10 times over to be able to come again, this year ;-).

>> ^SSIops:
>> ^quantumushroom:
I'm always embarrassed for her father, J. Jonah Jameson. He's got enough ulcers from Spider-Man.

You know Jenna Jameson isn't her real name, right?


Do you often experience an odd breeze when there shouldn't be one, as if something quickly flew by just a few inches over your head?

>> ^quantumushroom:
I'm always embarrassed for her father, J. Jonah Jameson. He's got enough ulcers from Spider-Man.


You know Jenna Jameson isn't her real name, right?

>> ^bigbikeman:
Spoco: True. You make valid points. and I too struggle with the whole porn thing. I love it. I hate it.
That being said, in a free society, one has to make room for this stuff. So Jenna hasn't gotten over her unhappiness? Well boo hoo, neither have I. So what? Where's my 15 mins with Bill O (so I could smash his self-righteous face against the wall and blame it on my parents while I lick his blood from my knuckles)? As for the porn industry being full of miserable bastards: take a look around any industry and you'll find sad desperation, in all it's insidious forms, anywhere you have the guts to acknowledge its existence.
The real problem in thinking here (imho) is in believing that what pornstars do is "Wrong", in the mortal sin kind of way. It's a trapping of the whole puritanical taboo against sex that runs so strong in N.A. society. Yes, people have sex with strangers for money. It's time we got over that already.
What they do is a choice, of their making, based on their life experience. And compared to other (comparatively morally ambiguous) choices, it isn't all that bad a way to make a living, really. Sure, you can rail against it and say that it's demeaning and demoralizing, but then you should rail against telemarketing to, not because it's annoying to you, but because it's psychologically damaging to the people who choose to do it.
But not many people take that stance....though by your argument it's equally valid.
Have sex with strangers; work at Walmart; call people you don't know in their homes and try to sell them something they've never heard of. Hmmmm.....tough call. I have a vague idea of what kind of whore I'd want to be, though.
To to be honest, I don't give a flying fuck if porn is empowering or not. That's not my problem. Or yours. It's Jenna's. If she says it is, then that's got to be good enough....assuming one gives her an ounce of respect.


Yeah, we shouldn't look down on people for having sex with others for money if that's what they chose, but the problem is that in so many cases they either do it and really, really hate it, and themselves, for doing it, purely because they need the money, or they're doing it while reaching out for something they're lacking in their relationships. Have a look at the movies "The Girl Next Door" or "Sex, the Annabel Chong story" for a couple of examples of the sorts of lives these women have... then you can also look up info on Asia Carerra, a porn star who has been admitted to Mensa, is very smart, and yet due to various bad things occurring during her younger years, ended up in porn also. What about Linda Lovelace from Deep Throat? Check out Louis Theroux's Documentary on Porn, that demonstrates how unhappy men can be in the roles also. (Yes, this is something that interests me quite a bit, because as I said, I would love to just be able to enjoy porn, but it's really hard when you are faced with the ugly behind the scenes truth... spoils the illusion) There are so, so, so many cases of these people not being happy at all, at all... try and find me one who's finished with the industry and still says 'Yeah, I loved it, it was a great job'. I think you'll have a hard time. OR even 'Yeah, I did that, it's behind me now, it didn't affect me at all, and I've moved on to better things' (like someone who had a job at Walmart might)

As much as you can say it's their choice, they have a right to do it if they want to etc. etc. and some woman say that they do like it, and they love it etc. I've yet to see a woman come out the other end and not be changed for the worse by this.

Oh, and Choggie mentioned the rise of brutal and degrading porn... yeah I've seen some of that on the web etc. and that is really wrong, the direction the industry has taken, seemingly towards more mistreatment of women is horrible. Give me a movie where the woman is pleasured and the man perhaps not even at all, and I'll find it more of a turn on, because at least that makes it more possible to believe everyone is having a good time.

My god I actually find myself agreeing with you. These feelings must be purged.



In reply to this comment by legacy0100:
kudos to Jenna for trying to raise the bar. That's genuinely commendable.

However,

Do I buy what she's pitching? No

Does it help to get her message acrossed by appearing on O'Reilly factor? No

Does porn stars have a chance to make it legit and be respected in society? As an individual, yes. As an industry, never.

>> ^spoco2:

Do you realize that you could say the exact same thing — mutatis mutandis — about any person in any public role, most obviously plain old movie actors?