Gotcha - I hate my time being wasted while I'm very busy fucking around looking at silly videos, especially when my time is wasted by 'misleadingly interesting titles'.
In reply to this comment by doogle:
Cuz not funny and waste of my time due to the misleadingly interesting title.
In reply to this comment by kymbos:
Just out of curiosity, why the downvote? http://videosift.com/video/Questions-to-ask-Batman

I know it's probably more fun to paint Obama as a super villain than to make an attempt to understand this issue on a deeper level, but Obama didn't write the detention provision, he didn't cravenly attach it to the annual military budget bill, he didn't vote for it with a veto proof majority, he expressed his dislike for the provision before and after the vote and he waived the offending provision from the larger bill. I'm not sure what else he was supposed to do, or why he is considered the mastermind behind this provision. Election years are always full of these kinds of gotcha lose/lose gambits, and we dutifully fall for them every time.

Funny as this clip is, I'm not crazy about the president yucking it up on late night shows. It seems a little unprofessional to me. >> ^TheSluiceGate:

Did he slowjam about his suspension of habeas corpus in the USA? He's goofing on chatshows while others may very well at this moment be imprisoned indefinitely without charges or trial on US soil.

>> ^spoco2:
I'm amazed that @shinyblurry can, with a straight face, (well, I assume he's not sniggering) suggest that it's inconceivable that while we've seen that when matter and anti-matter come together they cancel each other out and form 'nothing' the reverse cannot possibly happen.


Directing you to a general reply, here:

http://videosift.com/video/Richard-Dawkins-and-Lawrence-Krauss-Something-from-Nothing?loadcomm=1#comment-1443305

>> ^spoco2:
And yet God 'just is'. You cannot fathom that something that we HAVE OBSERVED would seem to logically go the other way also, and yet are happy to accept a notion of an omnipotent bearded man existing for all eternity.... so just giving up on the concept of time and saying 'he just was, and is'.


No one has given up on the concept of time. The evidence indicates that time had an absolute beginning:

http://www.ctc.cam.ac.uk/stephen70/talks/swh70_vilenkin.pdf

If time had an absolute beginning, that means that whatever created the Universe is timeless (as well as spaceless, powerful, immaterial and transcendent). Meaning, the evidence points to an eternal first cause of the Universe. That is already matching up to a description of God and His attributes. Also, God is not a bearded man; you came to that conclusion because of religous imagery, not what scripture says. What scripture says is that God is a spirit.

>> ^spoco2:
I don't get how you think you have any point of argument. Sure, I can completely get that people can conceive that there is some higher power, that's fine. But to think there's any infinitesimally small shred of logic or reason contained in that belief that is any more reasoned than what science is coming up with is baffling.


I'm glad to hear that you can allow for belief in a higher power. Though, it doesn't sound like you are very familiar with the logical arguments for the existence of God. The kalam cosmological argument, for example, establishes an eternal, personal, transcendent first cause of the Universe.

>> ^spoco2:
You believe that, you also think it's your mission to convert others, but you know what? Trying to argue it out, thinking that you have some logical gotcha is just futile. You know the best way to bring people to your way of thinking? Be compassionate, lead by example, do good works, help others. DO NOT PREACH. Seriously, some of the nicest people I know actually have their own church, they run it, they created it. But they DO NOT preach AT ALL to us, they don't try to convert us at all. But they are helpful, kind, caring people who are wonderful to be around, and when they bow their heads and pray and make speeches thanking their lord during their birthday parties and other celebrations it doesn't grate, because it's not done in any way that's trying to rope in us unbelievers.


I agree with you, that a Christian should do good works. That is the fruit of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. However, Christians are also commanded by Jesus to preach the gospel. We are supposed to do both, not one or the other. There are specific, spiritual reasons for why this is so. Your friends sounds like excellent Christians, however, if you were to die tomorrow, and they had never told you the gospel, they will answer for that at the judgment seat of Jesus Christ. Christianity does not come by osmosis; faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

>> ^spoco2:
Please take that as a way to spread your word, Do Good Deeds. We like to watch videos like this because it's two people discussing some really deep questions and we like to know what scientists think about these things that are in their field of expertise. I would just as much like to watch a discussion between theologians about morality and differing religions and how they think their teachings fit in there. As long as it wasn't a case of 'if you don't believe in me you are doomed to hell', just 'I believe that following these commandments will lead to a better life', or 'I don't take the story of Noah to be a factual account, but more a parable with a lesson'.


There is a difference between having a debate, and telling someone the gospel. However, why would you expect someone to compromise, or water down what they believe? You've felt very comfortable in telling me exactly what you believe, and what I should be doing, and how I should be doing it, yet I must censor myself for the sake of your sensitive ears? Do you think I am going to obey God, or man?

I'm amazed that @shinyblurry can, with a straight face, (well, I assume he's not sniggering) suggest that it's inconceivable that while we've seen that when matter and anti-matter come together they cancel each other out and form 'nothing' the reverse cannot possibly happen. And yet God 'just is'. You cannot fathom that something that we HAVE OBSERVED would seem to logically go the other way also, and yet are happy to accept a notion of an omnipotent bearded man existing for all eternity.... so just giving up on the concept of time and saying 'he just was, and is'.

I don't get how you think you have any point of argument. Sure, I can completely get that people can conceive that there is some higher power, that's fine. But to think there's any infinitesimally small shred of logic or reason contained in that belief that is any more reasoned than what science is coming up with is baffling.

You believe that, you also think it's your mission to convert others, but you know what? Trying to argue it out, thinking that you have some logical gotcha is just futile. You know the best way to bring people to your way of thinking? Be compassionate, lead by example, do good works, help others. DO NOT PREACH. Seriously, some of the nicest people I know actually have their own church, they run it, they created it. But they DO NOT preach AT ALL to us, they don't try to convert us at all. But they are helpful, kind, caring people who are wonderful to be around, and when they bow their heads and pray and make speeches thanking their lord during their birthday parties and other celebrations it doesn't grate, because it's not done in any way that's trying to rope in us unbelievers.

Please take that as a way to spread your word, Do Good Deeds. We like to watch videos like this because it's two people discussing some really deep questions and we like to know what scientists think about these things that are in their field of expertise. I would just as much like to watch a discussion between theologians about morality and differing religions and how they think their teachings fit in there. As long as it wasn't a case of 'if you don't believe in me you are doomed to hell', just 'I believe that following these commandments will lead to a better life', or 'I don't take the story of Noah to be a factual account, but more a parable with a lesson'.

Exactly. Like I said above, I think it's an amazing video, and I thought for a while about sifting it myself. But, the raw killing gave me pause.>> ^messenger:

Gotcha, so whether this is officially considered snuff or not, you'd still downvote? I'm 100% cool with that. Thanks for clearing it up.>> ^longde:
All due respect, messenger, downvoting is our way to say we don't want videos of people being killed on the sift. That said, whether or not this meets the sift guidelines on snuff videos is a good topic of discussion.
>> ^messenger:
Downvoting isn't the way to determine whether it's considered snuff to the Sift. discuss -ion is.
To me it's not snuff because if the hostage taker had lived, I would still have sifted it. In fact, I would rather he had lived. To me, this is all about the cahones on the policewoman.

Gotcha, so whether this is officially considered snuff or not, you'd still downvote? I'm 100% cool with that. Thanks for clearing it up.>> ^longde:

All due respect, messenger, downvoting is our way to say we don't want videos of people being killed on the sift. That said, whether or not this meets the sift guidelines on snuff videos is a good topic of discussion.
>> ^messenger:
Downvoting isn't the way to determine whether it's considered snuff to the Sift. discuss -ion is.
To me it's not snuff because if the hostage taker had lived, I would still have sifted it. In fact, I would rather he had lived. To me, this is all about the cahones on the policewoman.

Ah, okay, thanks!
In reply to this comment by kir_mokum:
my only point is that she's really talking about an ancient story archetype that isn't new or contained in the realm of contemporary pop culture. it's going to be a long time before we breed this meme out of our cultural DNA.


In reply to this comment by hpqp:
I don't think I get your point. Care to elaborate?
In reply to this comment by kir_mokum:
damsel in distress is still used and is usually sexist. gotcha.

my only point is that she's really talking about an ancient story archetype that isn't new or contained in the realm of contemporary pop culture. it's going to be a long time before we breed this meme out of our cultural DNA.


In reply to this comment by hpqp:
I don't think I get your point. Care to elaborate?
In reply to this comment by kir_mokum:
damsel in distress is still used and is usually sexist. gotcha.

I don't think I get your point. Care to elaborate?
In reply to this comment by kir_mokum:
damsel in distress is still used and is usually sexist. gotcha.

damsel in distress is still used and is usually sexist. gotcha.

AWESOME ! WE CAN VOTE ON A VIDEO BASED ON ITS TAGS NOW ? ! kickass ! everything marinara submits should be downvoted then.

Oh I see, not shitty tags, just ones we dont like. gotcha

Cardinal Pell just game across as a politician. Forever not really answering the question, forever going off on anecdotes. Painful.

Also, this suffered from the usual problem I have with Q&A in that they almost never get to properly answer a question. They get most of the way through some point and then have to finish, so we never get to the 'gotcha' moments.

I do find, though, that Dawkins does come across as a bit harsh to natural responses sometimes. Him getting aggravated to people laughing about the question of 'nothing' just serves to alienate him.

Rather than going 'What's funny about that?', he could MUCH better say 'It sounds funny doesn't it? But in fact it's a really important question... and here's why'.

So yeah, I wish we had a better spokesman than him sometimes.

But I watched it all the way through (on our original ABC website where they put all their shows after they air), and found it enlightening as I didn't know Cardinal Pell's views on various things, and now I do.

I gotcha dude. I thought it was hilarious.>> ^Payback:

...next scene, she takes a Glock and shoots Jayden's dog bowl.

>> ^Barseps:

>> ^alien_concept:
@Barseps, I don't know what I just watched there? Or quite what you're getting at. Maybe he just means that we have taken it to new levels or something, not that we started it off.

That's precisely what I'm saying A.C. football hooliganism didn't actually start in England so it can't be "absolutely English".......That's all


Ahhh, gotcha. I didn't really think that saying something is absolutely English means it has to originate form there, I figure if you say "football hooliganism" and peoples first thought is "English fans" that would be absolutely English, but you're right really

>> ^ghark:

>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^ghark:
nooooo : (

What's up?

I really like MIA, she's one of my favorite artists, I used to listen to Kala nearly every day on the way home from work on the train, and this is probably the best song on the album (imo). It just doesn't seem to blend well with the 'springy' upbeat nature of Vampire Weekend because, for me, MIA is gritty and tries to get across a message and this is hard to listen for when you have their persistent rock beat going on. It kind of leaves no time to reflect on what Paper Planes message is - if that makes sense.
Still upvoted because the mix is well done, and of course MIA rules


Ahh, gotcha. I kinda like it when the tone of the song completely changes though