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Doc_M says...

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Yeah, well I heard she once ATE a baby.
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Or maybe that was Fat Bastard. I forget these things some times.


On topic,
Even Obama says he is disgusted by people's use of her daughter's pregnancy as a political statement.

Also, the story of Trig is laid to rest. The baby is her's. There was never any doubt. All the media has recognized this and many have reported it. The story is over. If you want to debate the ethics of having children at her age however, knock yourselves out, but recognize that millions do it so you may just be judging your friends/neighbors/relatives at the same time.

Ricky Gervais - On Fat People

spoco2 says...

I completely agree with you... the prescribing of medication to children is another thing that really, really angers and saddens me...

"My kid is hard to control"
"He must have ADHD, here take these drugs, they'll subdue the little f*cker"
"Thanks doctor... I feel so much better now that I can pretend it wasn't my piss poor parenting and lack of attention or discipline that is to blame"

And yeah, I speak from some experience here, my parents used to be foster parents while I still lived at home, and they'd often get kids labelled 'problem children' (young, under 5s), and actually labeled as having ADHD etc. A WEEK, a friggin' WEEK with my parents and they were MUCH quieter, more content, able to sit and do puzzles or draw or play with lego... SO much better behaved, so much happier, more smiles, more engaged.

Then they'd have a visit with their parent out somewhere, and when they returned they were as insane as they used to be for a set amount of time until the rules were reset again.

It's all a cop out... society (western) is scarily, horribly going down the route of 'it's not me, it's something I can't control, give me medicine/surgery to fix it'.

And I hate it.

>> ^Shepppard:
I can see your arguement Spoco.
But basically we can just say the world in its entirety is changed. Children are being diagnosed for Ritalin left and right because their parents/doctors think the fact a 8 year old can't sit still is a problem, and therefore something's wrong with the child.
More and more 'Intolerancies' are popping up, my mother is a larger woman, she's not Obese, but she's up there. Her massage therapist told her to stop eating dairy for a week, because maybe some of the fat around her stomach is there because her intestines are swelling, causing extra bulk because MAYBE she's lactose intolerant.(I'm glad to say she told him that sounds like a load
of bull.)
Ricky pretty much has it on the nose, people with some form of problem are always looking for a quick way to fix it, or say it's there for a reason.
Everybody wants to lose weight, but nobody wants to eat less, or healthier.
Obese people(With the exception of very few. Again, I point to prader willi syndrome, the one Jimms mother has, i'm assuming). just don't want to admit they're lazy and not doing anything to help fix it. Since they're too lazy to fix it, they want something to say in their defense. "I can't stop eating, it's a disease."
Basically, if you've missed my point, because i'm tired and probably not getting it across clearly, is that basically nobody want's to own up to whats real anymore.
and now, because i'm a fat bastard Diseased, i'm going to go get some pie.



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