>> ^bareboards2:

I agree that it is terrible that this is happening to men now. I don't think that is progress, I think it is a disease that is spreading.
The point you are missing, though, is that these are the VAST MAJORITY of the images that women see. Pay attention to the next movie or TV show you watch. How many "normal" guys are cast in parts? How many "normal" women?
While you are watching, switch the genders in your mind and imagine a woman who is of the same attractiveness level as the men. I think it will shock you when you realize that you see normal looking men ALL THE TIME and rarely do you see normal looking women.
What percentage of all posters/images are JUST male body parts? What percentage of men in the media fit this impossibly high standard?
You can count on one hand the number of "normal" looking women on TV.
It is so pervasive you guys who think we are whining don't even see it.
Compare that to British TV. Men and women both are routinely ... normal. They are chubby, plain looking, balding if they are male. It is a relief to watch British TV.
And I didn't tell you to shut up, @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/ala_bala" title="member since February 9th, 2007" class="profilelink">ala_bala. I said think for ten minutes and then speak. Which clearly you didn't do.

>> ^schlub:
They definitely do this with men in advertising. Just watch any Gillette commercial. Huge bulging muscles and a penchant for ridiculous technology. A very poor representation of the majority of men.



Thank you for posting this, because i was just about to say - from what i see on tv, there is a roughly equal number of "perfect" men in adverts about aftershave, deodorant, shaving utensils, alcohol adverts, etc... If i compare, on the tv i watch, the number of perfect men to women? I'd say it was equal. Then i was about to say - does this say something about the difference between the sexes if it's only women who cannot help but judge themselves?

So there was my rant which never quite was, because i appreciate your comment and maybe i'm spoiled after all, perhaps it's not so bad here.

However, i really don't like the direction her argument takes, and i had to stop the video because i was that pissed off with it. "Objectifying is the first step on the road to abuse!" I'm sorry, but i can't buy into that and i never will. I don't like the logic whatsoever. It reminds me of the "violent video games cause violence" nonsense. There's always been violence, always will, video games won't change that.

In the same way, there's always been abuse and i would argue that abuse nowadays is far less accepted in our society than ever before. Racist, homophic, whatever. We are completely intolerant of those things now. Historically "raping" your wife wasn't really seen as rape, you were allowed to beat your wife if it was deemed reasonable, that kind of thing.

Absolutely unacceptable nowadays since the ADVENT of the objectification of women in advertisements - the evidence is hardly on her side. Cmon lady... I *hate* that argument.

I agree that it is terrible that this is happening to men now. I don't think that is progress, I think it is a disease that is spreading.

The point you are missing, though, is that these are the VAST MAJORITY of the images that women see. Pay attention to the next movie or TV show you watch. How many "normal" guys are cast in parts? How many "normal" women?

While you are watching, switch the genders in your mind and imagine a woman who is of the same attractiveness level as the men. I think it will shock you when you realize that you see normal looking men ALL THE TIME and rarely do you see normal looking women.

What percentage of all posters/images are JUST male body parts? What percentage of men in the media fit this impossibly high standard?

You can count on one hand the number of "normal" looking women on TV.

It is so pervasive you guys who think we are whining don't even see it.

Compare that to British TV. Men and women both are routinely ... normal. They are chubby, plain looking, balding if they are male. It is a relief to watch British TV.

And I didn't tell you to shut up, @ala_bala. I said think for ten minutes and then speak. Which clearly you didn't do.


>> ^schlub:

They definitely do this with men in advertising. Just watch any Gillette commercial. Huge bulging muscles and a penchant for ridiculous technology. A very poor representation of the majority of men.

@bareboards2

Never did I ever get a chubby while wrestling. ..and we had two girls on the team one year.

[In general, I'd say it's pretty difficult to get or maintain a chubby..
when some other person, male or female, is attempting to rip a limb from its socket or choke the life out of you.]

@BoneRemake

You know how I know you're gay? lol

>> ^blankfist:

Is it me or does Grohl look kind of like @dag?
ya, he is a bit chubby

>> ^eric3579:

Space exploration gives me a chubby.


Space docking gives me a bigger one.

Space exploration gives me a chubby.

Second the splatter notion. Also, LOL @ chubby Asian guy who's supposed to be a badass.

I agree Pure machine porn.

When he fired it up I got a chubby
When I saw it drive by I popped my cork

A chubby chaser deer...who knew

Edited out all the quotes cuz it looks like shit.

@dannym...
You cannot give any reason, fact, or study that would lead me to believe that a person causing the damage portrayed in this video was not a seriously fucked up cockroach. (Apologies to any roaches in the audience) If the woman receiving said damage actually enjoyed it, rather than simply endured it for whatever reason, then she's wired wrong and the aggressor is taking advantage of her. You seem to say that if "they don't complain, then they like it." That's fucked up.

I am going to assume you are coming at this from some sort of libertarian ideal, rather than someone who got a chubby watching this.

Oh yes, the La Rouchebags. When Bush was in office, Bush had a Hitler stash and they were all anti-war. Now that it's Obama, Obama has a Hitler stash and health care reform is secretly about killing your grandparents. When I was much younger (and dumber) I asked one about their organization. I was given some pamphlets about how La Rouche is all knowing, and invited to a "spiritual" retreat on an island....Something seems 'off' to me

There's a fine line between free speech and screaming at people/flipping out when being asked to leave private property. Sorry, but that guy had a better case for his freedom of speech being violated before he started screaming in people's faces, and yelling insults at anyone that wanted him to quiet down.

The whole chubby cop pinning down a man with crutches was pretty cringe worthy though....

Those are pretty pansy charges BTW. Basically yelling insults at people, refusing to leave private property, and screaming about something violent. The video could work against him, at least as far as the Assault 4, and trespass goes.

Small town? Really? Dallas's population density: 3,697.44/sq mi. Phoenix: 2,937.8/sq mi
Kaneohe? 5,320.7/sq mi. The entire island might as well be one big city. Secondly, how little does your dick have to be to just walk up to some thug that isn't even wielding a weapon and hand him your money because he asked for it?

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Social context folks.
1. Not every crime is perpetrated by a violent thug.
Those kids obviously weren't even mature enough to know what the hell they were doing while tryin' to rob those pudgy gaming patrons.
2. THEY COULDN'T EVEN ROB CHUBBY GAMER KIDS!
They live in a fairly small, upper middle-class town.
That's why the only got slapped on the wrists.
Tho of course, your cure-all solution is a gun.
3. If you guys had it your way:
The store owner would have had been armed. Right.
..But the kids probably would have been armed too.
Since the little shits probably definitely would have known about the gun just like the panic button.
Congrats!
Now you have an Armed Dick Wagglin' Contest between two or more completely inept humans.
Who gonna shoot first?!
Oh, that's right.
You guys don't know..
Or care, because you're already off curing socialism with AKs.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Replace "panic button" with ".357" and this video would be about 10 seconds long.

>> ^chilaxe:
Carry a gun. Problem solved.

>> ^Samaelsmith:
That's because they are minors. Their identities must be protected because they are under 18 and therefore are innocent angels.

Social context folks.
1. Not every crime is perpetrated by a violent thug.

That is true, but this was one was, by cowards running in a pack (not one of which suggested what they were planning was stupid).

Those kids obviously weren't even mature enough to know what the hell they were doing while tryin' to rob those pudgy gaming patrons.

To us watching our screens with the full story explained, they were "just dumb kids". When you're being attacked, it's a little different. How were the victims to know if the vermin didn't have knives (a far deadlier weapon at close range).

2. THEY COULDN'T EVEN ROB CHUBBY GAMER KIDS!

I salute their incompetence, but that shouldn't soften any penalties.

They live in a fairly small, upper middle-class town.
That's why the only got slapped on the wrists.

Assuming you lean left, shouldn't that outrage you that these spoiled youths and their tax-loophole parents beat the system?

Tho of course, your cure-all solution is a gun.

Foe self-defense, it's hard to beat.

3. If you guys had it your way:

The store owner would have had been armed. Right.

That's his choice. I'd have preferred he be armed as probably would those Americans that protect their lives and property (usually without a shot being fired) over 2 million times a year.

..But the kids probably would have been armed too.

And they would have gone to prison for it.

Since the little shits probably definitely would have known about the gun just like the panic button.

Or they might have decided "maybe a Nitendo DS (sic) isn't worth getting shot over."


Congrats!
Now you have an Armed Dick Wagglin' Contest between two or more completely inept humans.
Who gonna shoot first?!

Oh, that's right.
You guys don't know..

Or care, because you're already off curing socialism with AKs.

All right, I think we're done here. It's your right to be a victim, just don't extend it to others.

Social context folks.
1. Not every crime is perpetrated by a violent thug.

Those kids obviously weren't even mature enough to know what the hell they were doing while tryin' to rob those pudgy gaming patrons.

2. THEY COULDN'T EVEN ROB CHUBBY GAMER KIDS!
They live in a fairly small, upper middle-class town.
That's why the only got slapped on the wrists.

Tho of course, your cure-all solution is a gun.
3. If you guys had it your way:

The store owner would have had been armed. Right.

..But the kids probably would have been armed too.
Since the little shits probably definitely would have known about the gun just like the panic button.

Congrats!
Now you have an Armed Dick Wagglin' Contest between two or more completely inept humans.
Who gonna shoot first?!

Oh, that's right.
You guys don't know..

Or care, because you're already off curing socialism with AKs.


>> ^quantumushroom:

Replace "panic button" with ".357" and this video would be about 10 seconds long.


>> ^chilaxe:

Carry a gun. Problem solved.


>> ^Samaelsmith:
That's because they are minors. Their identities must be protected because they are under 18 and therefore are innocent angels.

They boarded ships, uninvited, in the dead of night, in international waters.

They were Israeli's. The ships were Turkish bound for Gaza.

They were commandos, armed to the teeth.

The people on the ships were old ladies and chubby college professors, armed with deck chairs and moral outrage.

The previous message contained zero percent propaganda.

Everybody weep for the poor, victimized Israeli commandos.