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BIll Maher Unleashes Against Militarized Police

chingalera says...

What's coming inevitably will be as it's always been in the 'century-of-self ': The machine keeps peeps distracted by disinformation, issues to rally-behind, toys to play with and continual mind-fucking through Bernay's-style cradle-to-grave programming then....Suddenly, like three skyscrapers dropping into their footprints on International Shit-Box Tonight with Sham Cocksworth, yet another, 'create-the-crisis-provide-the-solution' scenario will further strengthen the resolve of the assholes who want ultimately to have the world to themselves and the bulk of humanity as dutiful robot-putty-slaves.

Technology, technique, fear, and an empty promise of safety and security (please, think of the children again, break to commercial) will shape the next worldwide crisis and urgency of action...and again, watch rights and individual responsibility deteriorate into a controlled chaos.

Fake alien invasion? Orchestrated and choreographed conflicts? Some scary flesh-eating disease? Most-likely the next planetary theatrical concoction will be some superfecta once again where fascism continues to reign supreme and the entire globe continues along the path of planetary lock-down.

Oh, and pusillanimous shit-heals with Cheeto-stained fingertips will between anime-clips and chicken-choking to porn, (who think they know how police fraternities work), will continue to pop-spit from the illusory comfort of their soiled computer chairs....

'Right...'Left' ?? Again, for the ChaosEngines of the world...a concocted and programmed, fucking illusion.

'Silenced' Shotgun - Testing A Suppressor

AeroMechanical says...

There probably wouldn't be enough spread over the length of the silencer. Could depend on the choke though. Last time I fired a 12 gauge with buckshot, the spread was about 6 inches over 75 to 100 feet. They do probably use a special shot and choke for shooting off door hinges though, so who knows there.

Of course, where something like this would be useful for military and criminal type stuff is in a very short barrel shotgun, which could change things. Then, of course, you're in the area of "why not just use a submachine gun?".

EvilDeathBee said:

Would he be firing slugs? I mean if you fired buckshot or something, wouldn't you run the risk of the pellets getting caught in the suppressor?

NY Man Dies After Struggle With NYPD

Yogi says...

You're just going to keep arguing so I don't see the point of this. But I'll rebut some things.

You go and tell the family it doesn't matter that their son died.

My mother was choked and raped in my parents bed by an intruder when I was not yet 3 years old. The defensive wounds on her body were said by the authorities to be from her struggling until the very end.

Also I live with a trained UFC fighter, who was a champion in Southern California. I asked him this and you fight until you black out, you do not stop because you're getting choked, if anything it makes you more desperate.

You keep citing the Legal right to something as if that matters to me. It doesn't, I'm stating unequivocally that what they did was wrong, it doesn't matter what the law says. Just because a law says you can do something does not make it a just law.

It is their laws, it is the laws of the state. The police are a part of that state and they are sent by the owners of the state to enforce those laws. We do not have a democracy in the US anymore. This is like defending the SS because Hitler told them what to do, they have no defense.

We're done here, we will never agree because we have lived completely different lives. I understand that and I hope you do as well.

NY Man Dies After Struggle With NYPD

ChaosEngine says...

I'm just going to go through this point for point.

There is no gulf between the result, there is no gulf for the family of the victim. It doesn't matter if he's dead, there is no going back from that.
Argument from consequences. As sad as the result is, that isn't on the police.

If you have ever been choked you would know that you can't help yourself but resist. Your body spasm, it's trying to get air and you'll do everything you can to survive. What this tactic does is insure that a person will fight back so you can keep harming that person.
That is simply untrue, and I can tell you that from experience (10 years of martial arts and been in a few fights in my time). If you're getting choked, you stop resisting, because you've already lost and you're just making it worse.

The police are absolutely in the wrong, this man is not a danger to anyone, even himself. They either talk him down, or use non lethal means to bring him under control. If they can't do that they leave him be, and if they need to follow him until they get backup. There is no reason to immediately attack him, it just makes this worse.
Again, we have no idea why the police are arresting this guy, because the video doesn't provide any context.

So no it is not unreasonable to call it murder at all. It is by definition a Murder because it is the Unlawful Killing of a Human Being.
Two problems with that:
1: Unlawful. It wasn't unlawful, they were arresting him which they have a legal right to do.
2: You're deliberately leaving out a crucial part of the definition: with malice aforethought. Again, are you saying the cops deliberatly set out to kill him?

They may have the legal right under this Nations laws to murder people with impunity but the laws are wrong.
The use of deadly force by police is governed by laws, and any use of said force results in an investigation. In fact, deadly force "may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others." ( Tennessee v. Garner)

I completely agree that there have been cases of unjustified killing by police where they have escaped sanction (Diallo is the one that springs to mind), but to say that they can "murder people with impunity" is hyperbole and nonsense.

What you are doing is defending them using their Laws. Why would anyone ever accept that? If I could make the laws for myself I would and then I would never be guilty.
Because it's not "their laws". The police enforce the law, they don't make it. The laws are made by elected representatives.

There are huge problems with the justice system in the US (see john Olivers video on prisons for a start) and part of that is the police, but what you're doing is not helping.

It's akin to arguing that we should take action on climate change (a very real problem), because if we don't fairies will go extinct.

Yogi said:

stuff

NY Man Dies After Struggle With NYPD

Yogi says...

There is no gulf between the result, there is no gulf for the family of the victim. It doesn't matter if he's dead, there is no going back from that.

If you have ever been choked you would know that you can't help yourself but resist. Your body spasm, it's trying to get air and you'll do everything you can to survive. What this tactic does is insure that a person will fight back so you can keep harming that person.

The police are absolutely in the wrong, this man is not a danger to anyone, even himself. They either talk him down, or use non lethal means to bring him under control. If they can't do that they leave him be, and if they need to follow him until they get backup. There is no reason to immediately attack him, it just makes this worse.

So no it is not unreasonable to call it murder at all. It is by definition a Murder because it is the Unlawful Killing of a Human Being. They may have the legal right under this Nations laws to murder people with impunity but the laws are wrong.

What you are doing is defending them using their Laws. Why would anyone ever accept that? If I could make the laws for myself I would and then I would never be guilty.

ChaosEngine said:

I disagree. There is a huge moral gulf between deliberately setting out to kill someone and having someone die while they are resisting your attempt to restrain them.

And "an overwhelming forceful attack" is the whole point of an arrest. It's not supposed to be a fair fight, the suspect is supposed to give up peacefully when he sees the odds stacked against him. That it ended in his death is because he resisted arrest.

Here's the thing. You know all those movies and TV shows where an innocent man resists arrest, solves the crime he's accused of and is eventually proven right? Guess what happens in real life... he still gets convicted of resisting arrest. The law is like that for a reason. It's not up to you to decide your guilt or innocence.

I'm not saying the cops were right (as @Jerykk pointed out, there's no context to decide if they should have been arresting him), but calling it murder is unreasonable.

NY Man Dies After Struggle With NYPD

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Asmo says...

And you're still just as likely to get a car coming through the wall of your house, home invaded, choke on a piece of chicken etc...

Life isn't safe. The odds say that most people are likely to live till old age, but you never can tell what's going to happen, right?

JustSaying said:

I'd rather sit on a bland couch than in a spicy wheelchair.

A terrified abandoned dog gets rescued from the streets

Porksandwich says...

I think the noose does choke them slightly, dog necks aren't like humans. They got a lot more muscle...and their hide to protect their airway and blood flow/oxygen circulation.

artician said:

So.. How does the noose that animal catchers use not choke them? Or does it?

A terrified abandoned dog gets rescued from the streets

Being Completely F**king Wrong About Iraq

chingalera says...

Would there be any more name-calling, scripted cretins in the room returning to read a reaction unsuited to solicitation by an anonymous internet-blog-john who'd like to react rather than respond with intelligence-minus-ego-driven smugness???

Please newtboy (god that fucking handle grates), enlighten us all as to your personal hatred and dislike for someone who doesn't politely and tenderly caress your balls while choking on half-mast cock?!

Or how about this? Take your personal grudges elsewhere,or me and you into some private chat arena where we can kiss and make babies?? Hmm?? Fuck man, you and your goddamn new dysfunctional friends, the word hemorrhoid comes to mind.

Jersey the Dog vs Leaf Blower

cold beer

eric3579 says...

when it comes to emotion,
makes me start choking
so I, sit by the ocean
spent my last buck on a bottle of whiskey
drunk and broke
sittin' here in history
I made my mind up
I'm going
I got no where to go
don't know where I'm going
I do know one thing
one thing that is true
wherever I go, I'm gonna need you
we just cant let each other go now
were too close, to ever slow down
the only one who keeps my chin up
when you touch my lips we're like two dogs stuck
cold, cold beer
don't you ever worry I am right here
never live without you
don't care what I amount to, no.
talkin' bout cold cold beer
don't you ever worry, I am right here
can't ever live without you
I pick you up
I take you home
sit on my couch, turn off my phone,
cuz I love your taste, love your smell
who would ever thought that we could do so well
hell, I guess we're meant for each other
sorta like the microphone and my buddy Bruce Buffer
I can't really express my joy
sorta like a scrap between Osgood and Patty Roy
I cant take my eyes of you
went to rehab, thought that I lost you
but now we're are back together, with a vengeance
must be my little, Irish decendance.
it feels pretty good, to get this off my chest
even though people sayin, Jesse's obsessed
well maybe I am, maybe their right
one thing that I know, it was love at first sight.
Yeah, cold cold beer
don't you ever worry i am right here
can never live without you
i wouldn't even want to
cold, cold beer
don't you ever worry
i am right here
never live without you
you don't care what I amount to
Well I'm sitting on my stoop feelin' kinda lonely
me and Brenda fightin' so I call up the homies
but guys busy hangin' out in front of Sobey's
there's only one little fella who really knows me
he comes in a little brown, bottle or can
sits in my hand til I can barely stand
he's part of the family, he's part of the team
Took me under his wing when I was just a teen
every time he comes around he always,
takes me back to when I had a fake ID, and a little dirt stash
he rope soak cold pop 2 4 white pop pop top swish top tall boy, cold shot
BEER, cold, cold beer
don't you ever worry, I am right here
never live without you
you don't care what I amount to,
Oh cold beer,
don't you ever worry,
I am right here can't ever live without you
I wouldn't even want to

Kirikou and the Sorceress

BoneRemake says...

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... Is this the matrix ? is this website the filter for the matrix bibliography? ?

We were introduced to the matrix by THEIR terms, and now all these things lead up to now. i WILL GO to sleep waiting to wake up in a slab of fluid choking on a robotic stem.

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