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>> ^packo:

>> ^marbles:
Let me get this straight. MoveOn.org, a lobby group for the Wall Street financed Obama administration that is funded by Wall Street billionaire and financial criminal George Soros, has a problem with political spending? That's rich, Ha.
Oh and the "tax the rich" plan MoveOn and other groups are trying to push are widely supported by Wall Street oligarchs. Why is that? Hmmm....
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576504650
932556900.html
"Roughly 90% of the tax filers who would pay more under Mr. Obama’s plan aren’t millionaires, and 99.99% aren’t billionaires."
It is the middle class – not Warren Buffett or Wall Street corporations – who will be most hurt by the very policies the "tax the rich" crowd are calling for.

did you actually read that article? the only thing you got right is the 90% of tax filers wouldn't be millionaires... if you think the 99% is made of people making 200k+ / yr... you are living in a world where pigs fly and Nickelback rocks
and to defend the 200k+/yr statement against the fact that anyone with half a brain knows that the 99% make an avg wage/salary FAR FAR lower than that, the article defends itself by saying these "200 thousandnaires" might only make this level of pay for a few years of their life... wow! how will they ever get by when a few thousand is obviously so much more large a number to them than people making millions
woops, i guess cold hearted conservatism kinda blinds one to the ironic nature of the difference someone making 30-50k/yr might figure a few thousand is proportionally
cry, cry for the 200 thousandnaires... because the American Dream no longer works as a carrot on a stick when dealing with millions... while you may not be able to become a millionaire, you might be able to still become a 200 thousandnaire... so you better not mess with them
the irony that most won't become a 200 thousandnaire is probably lost on you as well
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html


Thanks for confirming what I've already said.

The "tax the rich" legislation is mostly a tax on the middle class and small business owners and NOT on millionaires and corporations.

By the way, it ignores the crux of the problem anyway. ie: Financial fraud and corruption.

>> ^marbles:

Let me get this straight. MoveOn.org, a lobby group for the Wall Street financed Obama administration that is funded by Wall Street billionaire and financial criminal George Soros, has a problem with political spending? That's rich, Ha.
Oh and the "tax the rich" plan MoveOn and other groups are trying to push are widely supported by Wall Street oligarchs. Why is that? Hmmm....
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576504650
932556900.html
"Roughly 90% of the tax filers who would pay more under Mr. Obama’s plan aren’t millionaires, and 99.99% aren’t billionaires."
It is the middle class – not Warren Buffett or Wall Street corporations – who will be most hurt by the very policies the "tax the rich" crowd are calling for.


did you actually read that article? the only thing you got right is the 90% of tax filers wouldn't be millionaires... if you think the 99% is made of people making 200k+ / yr... you are living in a world where pigs fly and Nickelback rocks

and to defend the 200k+/yr statement against the fact that anyone with half a brain knows that the 99% make an avg wage/salary FAR FAR lower than that, the article defends itself by saying these "200 thousandnaires" might only make this level of pay for a few years of their life... wow! how will they ever get by when a few thousand is obviously so much more large a number to them than people making millions

woops, i guess cold hearted conservatism kinda blinds one to the ironic nature of the difference someone making 30-50k/yr might figure a few thousand is proportionally

cry, cry for the 200 thousandnaires... because the American Dream no longer works as a carrot on a stick when dealing with millions... while you may not be able to become a millionaire, you might be able to still become a 200 thousandnaire... so you better not mess with them

the irony that most won't become a 200 thousandnaire is probably lost on you as well

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

@SDGundamX

I don't know where you get your info from, but Dawkins, as well as most atheists (myself included) are absolutely FOR teaching children about religion. The operative word, as you yourself seem to understand (as you use it in your argument) is "about". Compare:

"Son, there is an all-powerful man in space that will torture you forever if you don't do what his book says, and reward you if you do."

"Son, some people believe that there is... . Other people believe... None of their supernatural claims are supported by evidence, btw."

See the difference?

As for studies, I don't know if there are any (I would personally love to see the correlation of strong religious beliefs and the propensity to adhere to conspiracy theories for example), but one need no studies to understand that believing in the supernatural truth claims of religion demands a divorce from rational and evidence-based knowledge.

What does religious belief bring to the table then? Don't say morals/ethics: half of what they teach is horrible, and the other half have no basis in the religious beliefs, but can be explained scientifically. You may say religion is a vehicule for moral teachings, but it's an outdated and superfluous one at best, a counterproductive one at worst. Most of the times it boils down to waiving a supernatural stick and carrot (as all good tyrants do) instead of having people learn to think for themselves.

The only "original" thing religious belief brings is supernatural truth claims, which are at best meaningless speculation ("God gives life meaning", whatever that means), at worst irrational and dangerous ("the AntiChrist will rise when the temple in Jerusalem is rebuilt, bringing the end of the world").

No one is arguing against meditation or introspection btw. If you feel like talking to imaginary friends in order to do so, fine. Just don't force vulnerable kids to believe your imaginary friends actually exist.

As for Bahai being an example of a harmless religion, pick again. Sure, their doctrine is a little more "peace and love" than most of its monotheistic brothers, but homosexuality/"adultery" are still forbidden, and you're still taught to believe in and pray to an invisible sky-daddy, with all the irrational logical fallacies that go with it, and their inevitable clash with science and critical thinking.

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I liked the commentators - but they did sound exactly like these guys:



>> ^AnimalsForCrackers:

>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^robbersdog49:
It's awesome racing but the commentary really makes it for me. These guys really, really care about the race and you can just see them jumping around the commentary box at each corner! Great stuff.

Wow, what a difference. I absolutely hated the commentators. They sound like fucking chain smoking country yokels yelling out of a pub window. TAKEN A TIIIIIGHT LIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!!!! Dodgy, punch-drunk, old pair of gobby carrot munchers.
/rant

Exactly!

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^robbersdog49:
It's awesome racing but the commentary really makes it for me. These guys really, really care about the race and you can just see them jumping around the commentary box at each corner! Great stuff.

Wow, what a difference. I absolutely hated the commentators. They sound like fucking chain smoking country yokels yelling out of a pub window. TAKEN A TIIIIIGHT LIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!!!! Dodgy, punch-drunk, old pair of gobby carrot munchers.
/rant


Exactly!

>> ^robbersdog49:

It's awesome racing but the commentary really makes it for me. These guys really, really care about the race and you can just see them jumping around the commentary box at each corner! Great stuff.


Wow, what a difference. I absolutely hated the commentators. They sound like fucking chain smoking country yokels yelling out of a pub window. TAKEN A TIIIIIGHT LIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!!!! Dodgy, punch-drunk, old pair of gobby carrot munchers.

/rant

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>> ^oritteropo:

According to an unreliable source I found while googling, prior to 1877 it was always called cottage pie no matter what leftover meat was used to make it.
If I make cottage pie though, I use beef mince and make sure it's got some carrot and peas
>> ^Seric:
Shepard's Pie - traditionally British.
Also, something I don't get with other countries, Shepard's pie is LAMB. Not beef, that's a Cottage pie. Not damn TURKEY, that's some other kind of damn pie...
Shepard - sheep.
Think about it.

....I would accept "Turkey Shepard's Pie"



Hear hear! Carrots and peas are a must :>

Interesting fact regarding historical pie nomenclature, I'd no idea. Still, people should update their culinary cognomen to post 1877 to make me happier :B

According to an unreliable source I found while googling, prior to 1877 it was always called cottage pie no matter what leftover meat was used to make it.

If I make cottage pie though, I use beef mince and make sure it's got some carrot and peas
>> ^Seric:

Shepard's Pie - traditionally British.
Also, something I don't get with other countries, Shepard's pie is LAMB. Not beef, that's a Cottage pie. Not damn TURKEY, that's some other kind of damn pie...
Shepard - sheep.
Think about it.

....I would accept "Turkey Shepard's Pie"

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"Remember kids, when peddling BS, be wise and safe about it!"

Seriously though, this man of all people should know he's spouting bs. "No one ever spoke that way", eh? Siddhārtha Gautama is from India, Ravi, and one of the only ways in which his message does not anticipate that of Jesus is the lack of all that hellfire, eternal damnation and "you're either with me or against me" crap that Jesus introduced (and I won't mention all the Greek philosophers whose ideas were far more sophisticated than the carpenter's).

Sorry Ravi, but the Jeebs character, like all good tyrants, has two sides to his message: the stick and the carrot. Apologists today have simply put the stick behind their backs, now that centuries of beating humanity with it have borne its fruits.

Carrot, if it's legal to carry it, why would that be a problem? That's like saying that driving the speed limit on a road with a camera is looking to be harassed or abused. Besides, the camera was probably just his phone, which most people carry anyway.