"No...no...that's not true! That's impossible!!!"

And then I let myself fall into the abyss rather than buy Star Wars on Blu-ray.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Neat, but you can't polish a turd.


I hate to say this Mr. Mushroom, but mythbusters have actually proven that you can make turds shine!

http://videosift.com/video/You-can-t-Polishing-a-Turd-Mythbusters-say-otherwise

but on topic, you are right, it seems awkward for Lucasarts to go and try to fix this scene, but at least it is more credible than the Episode 1 puppet that was actually a downgrade from the Empire strikes back yoda...

>> ^quantumushroom:

Neat, but you can't polish a turd.


Stop writing witty things I agree with QM. It only furthers the cognitive dissonance I have about you.

>> ^artician:

Most expensive cat toy ever?


I was hoping that cat would ruin it.

QM:I'm happy to see that you accept the label 'right wing nutjob', that saves us time.
I wonder where you get your 90% figure (or your implication that 100% of teachers unions are democrat)...if true, why don't right wingers believe in education and journalism? No one is stopping them from being teachers or journalists.
You're part right about McCain, I did respect him for the most part (but didn't always agree with him) until he sold his soul and lost his mind in/after 2000 when the 'straight talk express' took a 90 deg right turn into a sewage filled ditch of lies, direction changes, blatant pandering, and BS. It makes me shudder to think what might have been if he had been president during his 'right wing wind sock' days, turning whichever way the right wing wind blew that day.
You have no idea when or how I was raised, so you should refrain from commenting on that subject. Let's just say your statement is wrong, as I'm sure are most of your assumptions about me.
The idea that the left is 'running roughshod' over the right is more complete insanity, the left is incapable of being cohesive enough to do much of anything intentionally. The right is cohesive, but their ideas are insane and proven repeatedly to be wrong for the most part. I do give them credit for knowing how to get their agenda furthered, I just disagree with their agenda as enacted.
Obama is on track to spend more than bush, but he has not yet. The reasons for the respective spending sprees and amount of each is another discussion in itself.
All taxpayers tired of being 'over' taxed are not right wing nutjobs, or even right wingers. That's an utter falicy and insulting BS. It's seemingly easy for you to point at the failings of one underfunded, over administrated program (public schools) and make the leap to the theory that all governmental programs are failures, but that is a gross simplification of a multifaceted problem. Even so, that theory doesn't hold water. The 'free market' for higher education shows that many, if not all completely 'private' schools provide sub par education (if any at all) while many schools using 'public' funds are among the highest ranked in the nation.
I'm sure you did call the feds attempt at stoping the failed CEO's from looting the failing companies we had just bailed out "obamatrons trying to loot corporations in the name of "social justice" ", so why isn't it 'the far right trying to loot the pensions and paychecks of the teachers' in the name of social justice? What's good for the goose...right? A legal contract is a legal contract, right?
I'm not sure if you are ignoring my last statement there or if that's some kind of 1/2 assed, racist response. Either way, TOTAL FAIL.
>> ^quantumushroom:
Dear right wing nutjob: Stop calling anyone or anything that isn't lock step in line with your insane far right wing agenda 'liberal' or 'democrat'. Because someone doesn't agree with your narrow, self centered world view, does not make them part of the groups you wish them to be in. Not everything that's left of the farthest right possible is liberal or democratic, only nutjobs think that way.
Labels save time, especially when they're accurate. American teachers' unions and 90% of American journalists are democrats, which used to mean liberal but now means socialist.
You, sir, are a tool. (please note I don't use the term 'conservative' because the right wing nuts of today are not conservative in the least, they want to make social laws fostering their viewpoint alone, that's not conservative, and they spend more liberally than their 'liberal' counterparts whenever they can.)
One of the many flowers in your garden of ignorance can be traced to this root: you were raised with the idea that "good conservatives" are RINO assholes like McCain who keep silent and compromise on every point in order to to be liked, while leftards and their failed schemes run roughshod over them. Now that the real Right has found its voice, there's a real chance at real change, however small.
The Kenyanesque Hawaiian has spent 3 trillion dollars in 3 years with more on the way. Spare the lecture about RINOS and spending, they're amateurs by comparison.
Your second point has already been dealt with...because the far right will take everything public servants have worked for and were contractually due and reduce them to minimum wage part time workers without benefits, those public servants were forced to unite and fight for what they worked for and earned.
'Dealt with' but not properly defended. The "far right"? And who might that be? Taxpayers who have had enough? People who see government schools for what they are? Dummy factories. Indoctrination centers. The free market does a better job teaching at half the cost. No wonder the unions hate vouchers and charter schools.
The Age of the Union is past. Put another way, if you can make a union competitive, fine by me, just don't expect GM-style bailouts. Ever. And to hell with all government unions. You may disagree and that's fine.
It's funny, I recall you being a voice for the CEO's of banks when they took golden parachutes after bush bailed them out of the ditch they drove into, saying they had contracts, and contracts must be enforced...why does that not apply to those making less than 10 million a year?
>>> You're bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with my original statement. The closest thing I remember to "defending CEOs" is calling out obamatrons trying to loot corporations in the name of "social justice". Utter crap.

Letting right wing nutjobs re-write contracts and negate our obligations was one of our biggest mistakes.
Fail. The Kenyanesque Hawaiian never met a spending cut he liked. He's overclocked this economy because he wants to cripple it. Here comes the broom to sweep the moonbats out of the belfry.
Speaking of rewarding failure.

Dear right wing nutjob: Stop calling anyone or anything that isn't lock step in line with your insane far right wing agenda 'liberal' or 'democrat'. Because someone doesn't agree with your narrow, self centered world view, does not make them part of the groups you wish them to be in. Not everything that's left of the farthest right possible is liberal or democratic, only nutjobs think that way.

Labels save time, especially when they're accurate. American teachers' unions and 90% of American journalists are democrats, which used to mean liberal but now means socialist.

You, sir, are a tool. (please note I don't use the term 'conservative' because the right wing nuts of today are not conservative in the least, they want to make social laws fostering their viewpoint alone, that's not conservative, and they spend more liberally than their 'liberal' counterparts whenever they can.)

One of the many flowers in your garden of ignorance can be traced to this root: you were raised with the idea that "good conservatives" are RINO assholes like McCain who keep silent and compromise on every point in order to to be liked, while leftards and their failed schemes run roughshod over them. Now that the real Right has found its voice, there's a real chance at real change, however small.

The Kenyanesque Hawaiian has spent 3 trillion dollars in 3 years with more on the way. Spare the lecture about RINOS and spending, they're amateurs by comparison.

Your second point has already been dealt with...because the far right will take everything public servants have worked for and were contractually due and reduce them to minimum wage part time workers without benefits, those public servants were forced to unite and fight for what they worked for and earned.

'Dealt with' but not properly defended. The "far right"? And who might that be? Taxpayers who have had enough? People who see government schools for what they are? Dummy factories. Indoctrination centers. The free market does a better job teaching at half the cost. No wonder the unions hate vouchers and charter schools.

The Age of the Union is past. Put another way, if you can make a union competitive, fine by me, just don't expect GM-style bailouts. Ever. And to hell with all government unions. You may disagree and that's fine.

It's funny, I recall you being a voice for the CEO's of banks when they took golden parachutes after bush bailed them out of the ditch they drove into, saying they had contracts, and contracts must be enforced...why does that not apply to those making less than 10 million a year?

>>> You're bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with my original statement. The closest thing I remember to "defending CEOs" is calling out obamatrons trying to loot corporations in the name of "social justice". Utter crap.

Letting right wing nutjobs re-write contracts and negate our obligations was one of our biggest mistakes.

Fail. The Kenyanesque Hawaiian never met a spending cut he liked. He's overclocked this economy because he wants to cripple it. Here comes the broom to sweep the moonbats out of the belfry.

Speaking of rewarding failure.

I think what he's generally getting at is that with technological advancement there's a trade off between the benefits of the previous approach, and the benefits of the new stuff. He's saying that the benefits of the new stuff don't really appeal to him - things like picture quality. He didn't care that the VHS picture quality was crap, because he could rely on sticking the little box in the bigger box and hitting play, which was all he wanted.

Personally, I have never been exposed to Tivo, although I know what it is. That whole thing of trying to make tv more accessable just seems redundant to me, because I can bypass it all with illegal downloads, and watch whatever I want when I want, with the trade-off of pretty crap quality. I couldn't care less about tivo, surround sound blah blah and blu-ray whatsits. If I had the patience to learn how to hook my laptop up to my telly I'd be stoked, but I'd still be watching crap quality stuff, now on a big screen.

Oh, and I hate cds and dvds. I lose the discs, lend them to people and never get them back, scratch them etc. He's not making up that discs get scratched.

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Oh, I did - thanks for that, fixed.>> ^MaxWilder:

I agree for the most part. The depth of the character interactions was a great pleasure, as was the complex plot for what is really a simple story.
I have to deduct points for some over-the-top Michael Bay style explosion scenes. And a few silly details that were ignored/overlooked. And one or two "Hey! Look! This is the 70's!" moments.
Other than that, great movie. Definitely going into my Blu-Ray collection.
Also, Speilberg was the producer, JJ Abrams was director. I suspect that's what you meant to type.

I agree for the most part. The depth of the character interactions was a great pleasure, as was the complex plot for what is really a simple story.

I have to deduct points for some over-the-top Michael Bay style explosion scenes. And a few silly details that were ignored/overlooked. And one or two "Hey! Look! This is the 70's!" moments.

Other than that, great movie. Definitely going into my Blu-Ray collection.

Also, Speilberg was the producer, JJ Abrams was director. I suspect that's what you meant to type.

Holy crap David, you've completely lost me here sir, COMPLETELY.

You SO do not want to go back to video tapes, and the increasingly fuzzy picture the more you watch it, the inability to skip to the part you want quickly.

Taping TV required having a damn library of tapes and a book where you'd write down what was on each tape so you could find it again... compared to now when you tell your Tivo to do it and it does.


He's obviously run out of real things to complain about, because this made no sense at all.

Excuse me while I go and watch a Blu Ray on my widescreen tv Mr Mitchell.

>> ^rottenseed:

Wait wait wait...I let them off the hook too easy.
You know what, FUCK PLAYSTATION! Not because their security was breached, so much, but because of the way they forced our hand by keeping us from loading alternative operating systems because they said it was a "potential security risk". Well lookie now, fuckers. You probably managed to piss more people than not and painted a big target on your backs. Well now we're all fucked. Instead of securing the data better, you focused on trying to stay "ahead" of hackers with constant "voluntary" security updates. Yea, it was so voluntary that if you didn't do it, some games wouldn't work, PSN wouldn't work and your blu-ray player wouldn't work. You're a bunch of cunts sony...a bunch of cunts.
Furthermore, your fucking OS sucks...should've spent more time on improving that. Maybe I wouldn't be so disgruntled right now if you had...


Since I've recently been told that hijacking threads on VS can't be done, I'll just point out that this is the full definition of "voluntary" used by libertarians (and the libertarians who call themselves "voluntaryists").

>> ^EMPIRE:

according to Boxofficemojo.com this movie cost 20 million dollars to make, and brought in 3 million so far. So... yeah, awesome success.


Very few that aren't in the main studio rotation make a profit, especially during their theatrical runs. A lot of that has to do with politics and the collusion between theaters and distributors. Another big portion of that has to do with funds allocated to marketing, which tends to always be very little for independent films.

For our film, we spent tens of thousands to get it into theaters knowing full well we'd lose that money completely. It was never about making a profit for us, though that would be really nice. It's about exposure and building a career.

The Illusionist only made 2.2 mil with a budget of 17 mil. Does that mean it's a failure? No, because it may make its money back through eventual PPV, rentals and DVD/Blu-Ray sales. Eventually that's where we also hope to make some of our money back.

And PS3 loads updates every other day.

But it does have the best blu-ray player around.

Wait wait wait...I let them off the hook too easy.

You know what, FUCK PLAYSTATION! Not because their security was breached, so much, but because of the way they forced our hand by keeping us from loading alternative operating systems because they said it was a "potential security risk". Well lookie now, fuckers. You probably managed to piss more people than not and painted a big target on your backs. Well now we're all fucked. Instead of securing the data better, you focused on trying to stay "ahead" of hackers with constant "voluntary" security updates. Yea, it was so voluntary that if you didn't do it, some games wouldn't work, PSN wouldn't work and your blu-ray player wouldn't work. You're a bunch of cunts sony...a bunch of cunts.

Furthermore, your fucking OS sucks...should've spent more time on improving that. Maybe I wouldn't be so disgruntled right now if you had...

>> ^deathcow:

Movies come out so quick now on blu-ray and DVD that there is practically no reason to expose oneself to the risk of getting logged as a copyright infringer.

Except the big part of not wanting to pay for a movie that you haven't seen.

I have four kids 7 and under, we hardly ever get to go to the movies any more, so that avenue of seeing a movie before buying is out of the question for most movies. Going to a DVD store and hiring discs, and then having to find the time to take them back is just fricken painful to the extreme, can't remember the last time we did that.

>> ^deathcow:

It would take less time to dupe a bluray from BB and leave out all the ads and unskippables than it does to download and burn it.
Bah and humbug. Setting a movie to download and forgetting about it until it's there, waiting to watch on my media server is WAAAAAY less time consuming than going to a video store, bringing it home, waiting for it to rip, then choosing the bits you do and don't want etc. etc.... man, that takes TIME man.

I have been downloading torrents for 7 or 8 years now, and have had ONE notice from a movie company emailed to me via my ISP at the time, and that was years ago. Nothing AT ALL came of that, and the ISP I'm with now, iiNet is on the forefront of battling the movie companies in court against them having to do anything at all to customers who download. So I don't think I'll be seeing much from them.

Again. I really DO download as a precursor to buying IF I actually like the film. If I didn't like it then they didn't lose anything by me doing so because, as I said, I never get time to watch them any other way.