>> ^deathcow:

Savor the moment. One moment you're riding high... then the next you're being dominated by some nasty guy for a little bag of crack.


I wouldnt let myself be dominated for at least two small bags of crack or one medium size bag of crack.

Savor the moment. One moment you're riding high... then the next you're being dominated by some nasty guy for a little bag of crack.

It's an important issue, dammit!
>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

You're tryin' to argue against titties and it not gonna work.
You're sayin' you don't like breasts? Even gay dudes still admire 'em.
Moreover, what's wrong with women having power, as crummy a power as it is. [Yay you'll make more as a prostitute or pornstar if you're a girl! Win for you!]
Not to mention it's dumb to suggest something so trivial would lead to any real change in overall power.
[Considering males are the dominate class in every society except about.. two.]
That one moment of pretty cute beautiful sexy cheerfulness should bring you joy.
It's a tiny slice of bliss in a dreary world and there's no need for you to go all Buzz Killington about it for the sake of being contrary. = P

..wow. I never knew i felt that strongly.

You're tryin' to argue against titties and it not gonna work.

You're sayin' you don't like breasts? Even gay dudes still admire 'em.

Moreover, what's wrong with women having power, as crummy a power as it is. [Yay you'll make more as a prostitute or pornstar if you're a girl! Win for you!]

Not to mention it's dumb to suggest something so trivial would lead to any real change in overall power.
[Considering males are the dominate class in every society except about.. two.]

That one moment of pretty cute beautiful sexy cheerfulness should bring you joy.

It's a tiny slice of bliss in a dreary world and there's no need for you to go all Buzz Killington about it for the sake of being contrary. = P


..wow. I never knew i felt that strongly.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

I think whether or not "progress" automatically implies positive goals is irrelevant. Let's substitute "change". Can we agree that "change" is an emotionally-neutral equivalent?
He's saying it's inaccurate to say blacks have changed because, again, it implies that they were doing something wrong in the past and now, because they've changed, we treat them as equals.
They haven't changed, whites have. Blacks have not stopped doing things wrong, whites have.
>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^xxovercastxx:
3. advancement in general.
4. growth or development; continuous improvement
Context be damned!
His point is that it's often presented as if blacks have finally come around and are living up to our ideals, as if they've progressed to the point where white people no longer find it necessary to beat, enslave, lynch and oppress them. The truth is, whites have finally come around and stopped treating Blacks like shit. Whites are the ones who've made progress, as we've learned to treat blacks like other people.
>> ^dannym3141:
Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.


The words that you put into his mouth reach the point he was failing to make very well. I actually think YOU are missing the context of the definition. The advancement means "advancement" towards a goal. The "development" is development towards a goal. (see my original comment) I'm still not buying this emotional connotation that "progress" means "moving away from something we consider bad".
You know cancer progresses, right? This is an emotional connotation that he is affixing and then attacking. If he's referring to people who consider "progress" to mean something different to its actual definition as he describes it, then at least he could say that's who he's addressing?



The problem i have here is that he's NOT saying "change". You are, and you're right, and i agree with what you're saying, but chris rock did not say that.

I think whether or not "progress" automatically implies positive goals is irrelevant. Let's substitute "change". Can we agree that "change" is an emotionally-neutral equivalent?

He's saying it's inaccurate to say blacks have changed because, again, it implies that they were doing something wrong in the past and now, because they've changed, we treat them as equals.

They haven't changed, whites have. Blacks have not stopped doing things wrong, whites have.

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^xxovercastxx:
3. advancement in general.
4. growth or development; continuous improvement
Context be damned!
His point is that it's often presented as if blacks have finally come around and are living up to our ideals, as if they've progressed to the point where white people no longer find it necessary to beat, enslave, lynch and oppress them. The truth is, whites have finally come around and stopped treating Blacks like shit. Whites are the ones who've made progress, as we've learned to treat blacks like other people.
>> ^dannym3141:
Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.


The words that you put into his mouth reach the point he was failing to make very well. I actually think YOU are missing the context of the definition. The advancement means "advancement" towards a goal. The "development" is development towards a goal. (see my original comment) I'm still not buying this emotional connotation that "progress" means "moving away from something we consider bad".
You know cancer progresses, right? This is an emotional connotation that he is affixing and then attacking. If he's referring to people who consider "progress" to mean something different to its actual definition as he describes it, then at least he could say that's who he's addressing?

>> ^xxovercastxx:

3. advancement in general.
4. growth or development; continuous improvement
Context be damned!
His point is that it's often presented as if blacks have finally come around and are living up to our ideals, as if they've progressed to the point where white people no longer find it necessary to beat, enslave, lynch and oppress them. The truth is, whites have finally come around and stopped treating Blacks like shit. Whites are the ones who've made progress, as we've learned to treat blacks like other people.
>> ^dannym3141:
Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.



The words that you put into his mouth reach the point he was failing to make very well. I actually think YOU are missing the context of the definition. The advancement means "advancement" towards a goal. The "development" is development towards a goal. (see my original comment) I'm still not buying this emotional connotation that "progress" means "moving away from something we consider bad".

You know cancer progresses, right? This is an emotional connotation that he is affixing and then attacking. If he's referring to people who consider "progress" to mean something different to its actual definition as he describes it, then at least he could say that's who he's addressing?

3. advancement in general.
4. growth or development; continuous improvement

Context be damned!

His point is that it's often presented as if blacks have finally come around and are living up to our ideals, as if they've progressed to the point where white people no longer find it necessary to beat, enslave, lynch and oppress them. The truth is, whites have finally come around and stopped treating Blacks like shit. Whites are the ones who've made progress, as we've learned to treat blacks like other people.

>> ^dannym3141:

Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.

>> ^CircleMaker:

>> ^dannym3141:
Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.

I get what you're saying, but I think Chris Rock was using the word 'progress' to mean 'get better than you were before.' In that light, it's really whites that have progressed, beyond Jim Crow laws and lynch mobs. Black people have historically done a lot to help that process along, but they did not themselves undergo any change in thinking, akin to that which white people have since those days; they always saw unequal treatment as unfair, while their oppressors didn't progress to that point until more recently. At least that's my understanding of what he was saying, and I don't even know what documentary they're talking about.


I know he was using the word in that way, i'm explaining that he's wrong.

>> ^dannym3141:

Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.


I get what you're saying, but I think Chris Rock was using the word 'progress' to mean 'get better than you were before.' In that light, it's really whites that have progressed, beyond Jim Crow laws and lynch mobs. Black people have historically done a lot to help that process along, but they did not themselves undergo any change in thinking, akin to that which white people have since those days; they always saw unequal treatment as unfair, while their oppressors didn't progress to that point until more recently. At least that's my understanding of what he was saying, and I don't even know what documentary they're talking about.

Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."

Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.

Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!

Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.

Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.

wow. I wonder what this discussion would've been like had I not said anything.

@JiggaJonson

The only reason I consider it selfish is because he was a recovered alcoholic and knew the consequences of dependence on harder drugs.

Now I, more than anyone, advocate the idea that our conscious control over behavior is but a flea on the leviathan that is instinct impulse and routine.

Nonetheless, he made a decision to indulge in an impulse which he knew was difficult to control even without having prior addiction problems.

He dodged is responsibility to stay sober and obligations to his friends and family and adoring fans for one moment of personal pleasure.

That's selfish.

You might disagree. But that doesn't make the thought less valid.

I remember this whole scene and how at that one moment David spade looks away from Farley because he is going to laugh, you can see him smile as he looks towards the crowed. ( not showed here )

I wish you tube was not fucktarded.

Hey if anyone knows where I , being in Canada, can view the skit online, I would really appreciate that.

Yes, Totally forgot to vote! I thought I had.
What a strange piece of modern culture though, I actually had never heard of er until I looked her up.

In reply to this comment by acidSpine:
All that and not a solitary vote. Nobody will get to read your description if the vid doesn't get sifted

In reply to this comment by Sagemind:
*Context Needed:

"Death" video

In November 1997 Hanson, under suggestion from Oldfield, recorded a video which was to be screened to One Nation members and supporters in the event of her assassination, following claims that she and her daughter had received anonymous death threats.[18][19] The 12-minute tape started off with the following message:
“ Fellow Australians, if you are seeing me now, it means I have been murdered. Do not let my passing distract you for even a moment ”

and then urged that

“ For the sake of our children and our children's children, you must fight on. Do not let my passing distract you for one moment. We must go forward together as Australians. Our country is at stake ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson

*Context Needed:

"Death" video

In November 1997 Hanson, under suggestion from Oldfield, recorded a video which was to be screened to One Nation members and supporters in the event of her assassination, following claims that she and her daughter had received anonymous death threats.[18][19] The 12-minute tape started off with the following message:
“ Fellow Australians, if you are seeing me now, it means I have been murdered. Do not let my passing distract you for even a moment ”

and then urged that

“ For the sake of our children and our children's children, you must fight on. Do not let my passing distract you for one moment. We must go forward together as Australians. Our country is at stake ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson