hmmmm, maybe if you tried to post something that everyone could give a fuck about, like art, good music etc., instead of stooping to the lowest common denominator of voyeurism, finger-pointing, and sensationalist hoo-ha, the dupe factor would be minimal.

Who gives a fiddler's fuck about Pat Robertson anyhow? He's a goddamn snake-oil piece of shit, drunk on his own cult of personality.

While there are interesting ideas within Ayn Rand's books, I would highly recommend a small treatise on her, and her "movement" as detailed by Michael Shermer in his book "Why People Believe Weird Things" - Part 2: Pseudoscience and Superstition, Chapter 8: The Unlikeliest Cult: Ayn Rand, Objectivism, and the Cult of Personality.

Though I'm no stranger to rock and roll, I was unable to recognize all the riffs, so I copy/pasted the below list from the Brodie Cumming web site for reference:

1 Stairway To Heaven - Led Zeppelin
2 Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple
3 Sweet Child O' Mine - Guns & Roses
4 Wanted Dead Or Alive - Bon Jovi
5 Layla - Eric Clapton
6 Black Magic Woman - Santana
7 No More Mr. Nice Guy - Alice Cooper
8 Beat It - Michael Jackson
9 Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne
10 Dr. Feelgood - Motely Crue
11 Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
12 Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd
13 Cowboys From Hell - Pantera
14 Enter Sandman - Metallica
15 Mister Sandman - Chet Atkins
16 One Step Closer - Linkin Park
17 Back In Black - AC/DC
18 Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
19 Black Dog - Led Zeppelin
20 Crazy On You - Heart
21 Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin
22 Bulls On Parade - Rage Against the Machine
23 Unchained - Van Halen
24 Bad To The Bone - George Thorogood
25 Johnny B. Goode - Chuck Berry
26 Surfing with the Alien - Joe Satriani
27 Money For Nothing - Dire Straits
28 Cult Of Personality - Living Colour
29 Start Me Up - Rolling Stones
30 Sunshine of your Love - Cream
31 Runnin' with the Devil - Van Halen
32 Hells Bells - AC/DC
33 Foxy Lady - Jimi Hendrix
34 Frankenstein - The Edgar Winter Group
35 Aqualung - Jethro Tull
36 In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly
37 Carry On Wayward Son - Kansas
38 (Don't Fear) The Reaper - Blue Oyster Cult
39 Cemetary Gates - Pantera
40 Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love - Van Halen
41 Walk This Way - Aerosmith
42 Tonight 'm Gonna Rock You (Tonight) - Spinal Tap
43 Life in the Fast Lane - Eagles
44 Come As You Are - Nirvana
45 Zero - Smashing Pumpkins
46 Nothin' But A Good Time - Poison
47 Round n Round - Ratt
48 It's Not Love - Dokken
49 Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo - Rick Derringer
50 Norwegian Wood - Beatles
51 Under The Bridge - Red Hot Chili Peppers
52 Kashmir - Led Zeppelin
53 Train Kept A-Rolling - The Yardbirds
54 Blackbird - Beatles
55 Eye of the Tiger - Survivor
56 All Along the Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix
57 Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison
58 Ace Of Spades - Motorhead
59 Breaking The Law - Judas Priest
60 King of the Hill Theme - Brian David Blush/Roger Meade Clyne
61 All Right Now - Free
62 Are You Gonna Go My Way - Lenny Kravitz
63 When I Come Around - Green Day
64 Trilogy Suite Op.5 - Yngwie Malmsteen
65 Born To Run - Bruce Springsteen
66 Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison
67 Day Tripper - Beatles
68 Panama - Van Halen
69 Born To Be Wild - Steppenwolf
70 More Than A Feeling - Boston
71 Cat Scratch Fever - Ted Nugent
72 Bark At The Moon - Ozzy Osbourne
73 Hair Of The Dog - Nazareth
74 No More Tears - Ozzy Osbourne
75 Just A Girl - No Doubt
76 Iron Man - Black Sabbath
77 Sweet Emotion - Aerosmith
78 Pride And Joy - Stevie Ray Vaughn
79 Sharp Dressed Man - ZZ Top
80 Machine Head - Bush
81 Black Or White - Michael Jackson
82 Sultans Of Swing - Dire Straits
83 Hey Joe - Jimi Hendrix
84 Whole Lotta Love - Led Zeppelin
85 10 Years Gone - Led Zeppelin
86 Wild Thing - The Troggs
87 Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Yes
88 Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf
89 I Love Rock N ' Roll - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts
90 Brown Sugar - Rolling Stones
91 La Bamba - Los Lobos
92 China Grove - Doobie Brothers
93 You Really Got Me - Van Halen
94 Wipe Out - The Surfaris
95 House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
96 Dust In The Wind - Kansas
97 Rhiannon - Fleetwood Mac
98 Susie Q - Creedence Clearwater Revival
99 Voodoo Child - Jimi Hendrix
100 Eruption - Van Halen

Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that Hitler killed 9 million jewish people. See the gap now? Comparing someone who wants to reform healthcare to help people in the US with someone who executed 9 million people is demeaning to those who actually died in the Holocaust.

In reply to this comment by Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
I can quote wiki and dictionary.com too if I wanted. Look up 'Nazi party' and 'Socialist'. That's who Hitler was. A socialist - like Obama. This fact is indisputable.

Regardless, I note the myriad instance of qualified language in your defintions. They're there for a reason. 'In theory'? 'Usually'? Your source acknowledges that the definition the term 'facist' is somewhat fluid depending on who you talk to. Besides, you're using different terminology than what I was discuss. This in an odious practice typical of neolibs. When losing a discussion on substance, change the terminology to give the illusion that you aren't. I was discussing the political comparison of Obama vs Bush vs Hitler. Politically speaking, there is no question that Obama and Hitler were soulmates on a far deeper level than Bush and Hitler were.

And I had to laugh at the “cult of personality is the cornerstone of fascism" bit. Between Obama and Bush, which one is the one that built his entire political career on the cult of personality? Say what you like, but Bush rarely (if ever) went on about "me me me ME!" But every time Obama opens his socialist (and now I guess facist) piehole, it's always "MY plan", "MY agenda", "MY this", "MY that". The guy is a total narcicisst. America's in far more danger from Obama and his cult of personality zombies than it ever was under Bush.

I can quote wiki and dictionary.com too if I wanted. Look up 'Nazi party' and 'Socialist'. That's who Hitler was. A socialist - like Obama. This fact is indisputable.

Regardless, I note the myriad instance of qualified language in your defintions. They're there for a reason. 'In theory'? 'Usually'? Your source acknowledges that the definition the term 'facist' is somewhat fluid depending on who you talk to. Besides, you're using different terminology than what I was discuss. This in an odious practice typical of neolibs. When losing a discussion on substance, change the terminology to give the illusion that you aren't. I was discussing the political comparison of Obama vs Bush vs Hitler. Politically speaking, there is no question that Obama and Hitler were soulmates on a far deeper level than Bush and Hitler were.

And I had to laugh at the “cult of personality is the cornerstone of fascism" bit. Between Obama and Bush, which one is the one that built his entire political career on the cult of personality? Say what you like, but Bush rarely (if ever) went on about "me me me ME!" But every time Obama opens his socialist (and now I guess facist) piehole, it's always "MY plan", "MY agenda", "MY this", "MY that". The guy is a total narcicisst. America's in far more danger from Obama and his cult of personality zombies than it ever was under Bush.

Sure Winstonfield, sure.

From dictionary.com

fas⋅cism  [fash-iz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3. (initial capital letter) a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.

Also, from their cultural dictionary.

fascism [(fash-iz-uhm)]

A system of government that flourished in Europe from the 1920s to the end of World War II. Germany under Adolf Hitler, Italy under Mussolini, and Spain under Franco were all fascist states. As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, wears a showy uniform, and rallies his followers by mass parades; appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, such as the Jews in Germany. Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality. In theory, communism opposes the identification of government with a single charismatic leader (the “cult of personality”), which is the cornerstone of fascism. Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.

So you see Winfeld - as much as you will try to whine about nazi's being left-wing, you're wrong. Keep whining though, if it makes you feel better.

I would welcome any Ron Paul Republican over an Obama Democrat any day. And, I don't thinking anyone is immune to indoctrination, but I wasn't speaking about partisan indoctrination. I was speaking of statist and social indoctrination. Status quo. What they refuse to teach you in civics class. Hell, not once do I think I ever had a real civics class. Praise allah there's a such thing as being an autodidact.

And, yes, nationalized healthcare is compulsory. Thanks for admitting that. So, how is it using "fear" to coerce people if I'm calling a spade a spade? Conversely, I think it's dubious to dodge that it's compulsory. Regardless, the intention of the *fear channel was to go against our innate fear of each other, of trusting each other, and of allowing each of us to make decisions for ourselves... and that extends to nationalized healthcare.

I know you and NetRunner don't see it, but you're wrong to tell me what I need to do to take care of myself. It demonstrates arrogance to think you know best for those of us too stupid to make our own decisions. I don't believe in fear (passion) to persuade. I believe in reason. And I believe in being persuasive with words to convince people, not by using force and violence. But, you and NR are too indoctrinated with your cognitive dissonance to make any real change with the two of you.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Don't play coy with me, snuggle nuts, national healthcare is compulsory by definition. When you bust out the scary rhetorical words, you are employing the very *fear tactics that you created a channel to combat, ya?

I hope that you don't believe libertarians are immune to indoctrination. I mean, believing that you are the author of liberty is the first sign of your political delusion. srsly. Ron Paul, like it or not, is a member of the cult of personality every bit as much as Obama, if not morso because he's had no national forum with which to prove himself.... beyond a lot of fanciful talk. He's still a Republican for chrissakes!!!! Where's the integrity in that?

Don't play coy with me, snuggle nuts, national healthcare is compulsory by definition. When you bust out the scary rhetorical words, you are employing the very *fear tactics that you created a channel to combat, ya?

I hope that you don't believe libertarians are immune to indoctrination. I mean, believing that you are the author of liberty is the first sign of your political delusion. srsly. Ron Paul, like it or not, is a member of the cult of personality every bit as much as Obama, if not morso because he's had no national forum with which to prove himself.... beyond a lot of fanciful talk. He's still a Republican for chrissakes!!!! Where's the integrity in that?






In reply to this comment by blankfist:
You don't think the title was apt? Oh well. Your indoctrination runs too deep to make any substantial change anyhow, so I guess you would be the wrong audience for this. And, you're right, I didn't make an argument. I just copied a portion of the article and then linked to it. I guess that's enough to tick off my statist friends.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Love the propagandistic title. You might as well write, 'I have no argument' when you put something that silly in your title. I'll be happy so long as I don't have to suffer blankfistian-style compulsory, authoritarian libertarianism.

No one's denying the man is charismatic, his hypno-speeches could make dogshit taste good.

Unfortunately what he stands for is fraudulent in its effectiveness and workability.

The Constitution was designed to address such cults of personality, but it doesn't work if it's not obeyed.

If America had a watchdog media instead of a liberal lapdog he'd never have been President.

I thought this was brilliant.

Especially as someone who is more mathematically oriented, i find these kinds of shows to be full of crap where they are discussion something artsy and making a big deal out of it, despite the fact the author of the art (drawing, music or otherwise) might actually be a mediocre artist and is accepted genius because of a 'cult of personality'.

The statists' "choice" when confronted with libertarian principles is a claim that anything outside the padded walls of nanny state socialism/soft tyranny is "anarchy". Rubbish!

It's not a stretch to say (elected) American leftists circa 2009 have completely abandoned the Constitution in favor of mob rule and a single cult of personality who has no clue what he's doing. There's no rule of law behind any of The One's decisions, and his actions do not represent a leader concerned with individual freedom, God-given rights (to humor you atheists, no matter where you say natural rights come from it's never from government) or the time-proven strategies leading to economic recovery instead of crushing debt.

Elected Repubicans may not be much better in following the Constitution than liberals, but the difference is enough to matter. Compared to Bush, NOBODY trusts or believes this government, except the libmedia.

Freedom: 1776--2008.

2009 and beyond: total crap shoot.

WP and QM can sqwak all they want about how awesome it is to torture (brown) people. But they are in the very very slim minority.

Is anyone still falling for this liberal-commie race card BULLSHIT? Sorry, dawg, "Black" President. No more racism! But for the record, there are not a few Chinese spies I would also love to see strapped to the board...but the chi-comms just don't have the time, they're to busy setting up sweetheart deals for the spouse-owned companies of scum like Diane Feinstink.

I didn't enjoy watching people jump to their deaths off the WTC, and if some piece of excrement whose humanity ended the day he decided killing innocents would futher "THE CAUSE" gets a gallon of water up his nose to disclose the next attack, I'll be the first to crank out the garden hose.

Some "experts" claim torture never works, some say it DOES work. Even as Obamarx further weakens national security in his attempt to revive Bush Derangement Syndrome by releasing classified documents, large sections of text are blacked out. Could it be "torture" actually worked to prevent some further attacks?

Don't look to a lawless cult of personality like Obama for truth, here or anywhere else.

It's the same modus operandi as the global warmist hoaxers: keep the data that supports the pre-made conclusion, throw the rest out.

Pacifism is moral cowardice. Tell your kollij perfessers!

Birth certificate "scandal".

Why is Obama spending thousands of dollars to hide a $10 document? His real birth certificate has never been released.

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I don't give a dang if THE ONE is for or against the Unfairness Doctrine. He nor Congress has lawful power in the matter. The difference between a nation of laws and a nation led by a cult of personality.

>> ^volumptuous:
>> ^quantumushroom:
a cult-of-personality prez we know almost nothing about.

You'd have to have your head in the sand for the last two years to not know almost everything about Obama.
He's been touring the country, non-stop for two years, telling people who he is, where he came from, and what he would do as POTUS. He's written two memoirs, with his own pen, describing every detail of his life. He has countless policy papers telling exactly what his platform is and what an Obama administration would look like.
To know "almost nothing" about Obama is complete horseshit. And the only reason why Brokaw would try to continue this meme is to desperately hold onto relevance that is quickly slipping away. Brokaw knows. QM knows. Everyone knows.


Wrong again. What about his college years? His thesis? His islamic connections? His true connections with Ayers/Wright? How well do you know these topics? That's right, you don't.

>> ^quantumushroom:
a cult-of-personality prez we know almost nothing about.


You'd have to have your head in the sand for the last two years to not know almost everything about Obama.

He's been touring the country, non-stop for two years, telling people who he is, where he came from, and what he would do as POTUS. He's written two memoirs, with his own pen, describing every detail of his life. He has countless policy papers telling exactly what his platform is and what an Obama administration would look like.

To know "almost nothing" about Obama is complete horseshit. And the only reason why Brokaw would try to continue this meme is to desperately hold onto relevance that is quickly slipping away. Brokaw knows. QM knows. Everyone knows.