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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Climate Change Debate

shatterdrose says...

I grow my own plants, well, as many as I can in an apartment. I bike everywhere I can. I eat some meat, but it consists very little of my diet. I produce a grocery bag of trash a week and most of that is organic waste.

Oh, you mean I should stop living in a first world country and go back to the stone-age! I get it now. You mean, I should completely and utterly give up everything because it may cause some pollution? Very illogical of you. I believe that is another one of those fallacies people are chiding you for.

By acknowledging the climate change is man-made, we can make better strides to actually bring about meaningful changes. One person reducing their carbon footprint isn't going to make much of a difference, but 350,000,000 people will.

Or, if politicians like Marco Rubio, who I shutter to think belongs to my state, would stop denying climate change we could actually have a dialogue about actual changes we can make, not ad reductionist claims like some people here on the sift are making. (I.E., you.)

Um, as for the state getting out of the way . . . The reason we have any clean air is because of their standards. For instance, it took a government mandate to eliminate lead from gasoline. Lead, which is highly toxic and one of the leading causes of anti-social behavior in convicted felons of violent crimes. I'm sure the free-market would have solved that issue on it own, however, in a much shorter period of time. *Thinks about that for a while.*

So you want to move away from the AGW and just say the climate is changing?

Basic premise flaw: if we humans aren't creating it, then there's nothing we can do. I give you, case in point, climate change deniers. Such as our Marco Rubio. Humans aren't causing it, therefore, we shouldn't impose any regulations on oil and gas. (I believe they did something similar back in the leaded gasoline days. May what short memories we have.)

By the way, saying since California has environmentalists that having the worst air pollution thus makes environmentalism a mute point would be called Fallacy of Composition. Because, let's not forget basic math: California population is greater than oh, I think 49 other states and contains the counties largest ports (major source of air pollution), the majority of the countries cars, the majority of semi trucks and trains originate here, they house dozens of oil refineries and there's this little itty bitty nascent issue of these Rocky Mountain things people keep talking about. Or, this "valley" people make fun of. I hear it's right next to these mountains.

So, really, the logical argument would be, because of the increasingly dire air pollution in California, more and more people are become environmentally aware and are slowly changing their habits to reduce future smog, but without increasing government intervention, larger corporations will continue their practice so long as it returns a profit. So, as a result, the larger corporations are spending millions lobbying politicians who have been passing favorable laws much to the angst of the growing environmental movement.

And no, that doesn't require overthrowing the government and going to an all berries diet. Nor me writing a book about my efforts.

Trancecoach said:

Yadda yadda see above.

Duck Dynasty Is Fake!

shinyblurry says...

The guy who made this video really failed to give a thoughtful analysis of the situation. Before I comment, I will clarify that I do not agree with the thought or spirit behind Phils comments. I think they were crude, and fundamentally wrong on a few different levels. I do agree with Phil, however, that homosexuality is a sin. However, so is stealing and lying and cheating on your taxes, and so I do not single out homosexuals for their sins in particular. To do so would be hypocrtical because I fall short of the glory of God daily and I need Jesus just as much as they do.

My comment is that this situation has little to do with Phil or Duck dynasty; it is simply acting as a vehicle for a lot of pent up outrage and angst against the media and the politically correct culture. It's an overreaction, basically, because conservatives in general and Christians in particular feel marginalized by the current cultural climate.

It's an interesting cultural milestone because while Chick-fil-a was popular, it was never in the spotlight of the media or very much in the national consciousness. As a money making and ratings juggernaut, Duck Dynasty is right on the main nerve of it all, and so its fans, typically conservatives and Christians, cannot be easily ignored. Greed has given them a voice because the threat of a boycott is seen as a clear and present danger to many different bank accounts.

So we see two forces now pitted against eachother; one is the real motive of the corporation, which is to milk duck dynasty for every dollar it can. The other is its obligation to appease the politically correct establishment by blacklisting all who have violated the new cultural norms. A&E had no choice in the matter; they clearly had to do something. But, it is all just a facade; they dearly wish they had 100 Phils with 100 hit shows instead of just 1.

So, it is interesting to me because greed is taking the air out of the politically correct atmosphere. Because of Duck Dynastys popularity, the right actually has a louder voice in the culture than the left on this issue. If Duck Dynasty was just an obscure show, Phil would be history. Yet, because it generates so much wealth for shareholders, Phil is pretty much invincible. It all comes back to the bottom line, an idol to which seemingly anything can ultimately be sacrificed, even the progressive agenda itself.

Remembering Some Of the Most Notorious Videosift Shills (History Talk Post)

chingalera says...

Fair enough ma'am, and as to my sincerity I consider such assertions to be somewhat subjective in light of association and nearness to your heart......and if my memory serves me incorrectly as to his mission, passion, or prominence I do with all heart and sincerity apologize once again.

Hearsay is in fact, what prompted my accusatory tone, I seem to recall someone having told me he was in fact, working for the Obama campaign in some form or another which in my personal playbook would include pejoratively your man in the ranks of similar eager apologists for the lame-duck's fan-club. I was never a fan of the damaged President, his works have proven his mettle thus far to have been a dire shame to America rather than some savior or healing saint.

You may believe me mint, that I harbor no ill-will whatsoever to your man, or to his sincerity and passion for the healing of this country. I simply consider fans of anyone whose knowledge of the facts consists of promulgated sound-bites and half-truths at face value, self-deceit of the highest order. I do respect his mind and heart, his passion and dedication to ultimate truth and peace.

As to my sanity well, what IS sanity would be my question and who if anyone is qualified to make such a bold assumption as to another person's mind? I maintain that nobody holds the keys to that mysterious kingdom and would offer, that my own dysfunction lies in my inability to use language very well, to express my emotions and angst, my joy and contentment, that all may understand and relate to. We all have our problems and mine are several and constant-Expression of heart comes at a great price for me. I am an angry person, a thoughtful person, a sincerely confused and connected person, and all humans share this with every other, with no exceptions.

If I may be called a shill as well, my fanaticism rests in the camp of understanding who and what I am relative to the rest of the human race.

We're all works-in-progress until we stop sucking air and pumping blood, my hope is to remain incarnate for another 1000 years, at which point I may become an adolescent just passing the age of reason (7 years old in human dog years)!

I hope you come back strong and NetRunner too, in 2014. I welcome what everyone has to share. Sorry I was such a dick in the past-

I won't promise that you will not see it again, keeping oneself in check is a 24/7, 365 chore.

Peace and understanding to all members of this site, and above all, love.

Turbostaat - Tut es doch weh (Does it still hurt)

oritteropo says...

Tut es doch weh Songtext

Langsam hebt und senkt sich
der Brustkorb und sie schnarcht.
Seelig und zufrieden mit dem Tag.
Dein Blick fällt auf die Schuhe
und dann fällt dir noch ein:
"Da vorne sitzt ein Sparschwein"
und du sitzt hier fast allein.

Vielleicht tut es doch weh

"Dein Onkel hat gut lachen"
hat man stets gesagt.
Er macht ein Vermögen mit Chemie.
Vielleicht macht das nicht glücklich,
doch beruhigt ein' ungemein!
Und wenn es ein' zur Ruhe hilft
dann muss es richtig sein!

[Refrain]
Vielleicht tut es doch weh
und dann packt dich die Angst.
Manchmal glaubt man beinahe selber,
dass das alles so gehört.
Vielleicht tut es doch weh
und nimmt dir den Schlaf.
Manchmal glaubt man beinahe selber,
dass das alles so gehört.

Dem Nachbarn blieb die Sorge,
er süffelt sich in Schlaf.
Da ist das Zetern halb so lang.

Mummified Child Sacrifice

A10anis says...

You say; "I'm even interested in self-righteous drive-by commenters who like to dissect phrases to to generate angst." Nothing in my comment was self righteous, I was stating a sad fact. And I did not "dissect" your comment as, frankly, there was nothing to dissect. You made a poor choice of words in the first comment, and a poor choice in the second. Don't dig a bigger hole my friend.

Mummified Child Sacrifice

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Sure , but expressing interest in something doesn't assume philosophical support. I find The Crusades, Pogroms and the Vietnam war interesting too. It's healthy to take an interest in things.

I'm even interested in self-righteous drive-by commenters who like to dissect phrases to to generate angst.

Actually, no I take that back, I'm no longer interested in that. It's a topic that's been too thoroughly explored. ;-|

A10anis said:

I don't think the word "interesting" is quite appropriate. This is just another example of how innocence is sacrificed to religion/beliefs/cults. And the truly shocking thing is that it still, even in the 21st century, carries on.

Dear Straight People

Shameless product placement on TV

Porksandwich says...

@spoco2

Anything worth watching gets canceled or threatened anymore. And they wonder why they have trouble keeping certain demographics when they only keep the teen-angst drama stuff, CSI, and game shows.

Ever notice they also have big surges of similar TV shows debuted every year? One year it's lots of cop shows. Next year it's medical. I've always wondered why they don't try .....alternative their releases so they aren't all putting out the same "new" themed shows.

FrostBoss: Spin your drink like a boss

KnivesOut says...

The existential angst is palpable.>> ^redyellowblue:

I just think 40 min-4 hrs ahead of time before I want a cold drink. Not that it matters. This is stupid, why am I talking about this. I don't even have a preference for cold drinks over warm. Ultimately I am indifferent. What is the point of anything.

Squarepusher - Dark Steering

volumptuous says...

Squarepusher is anything but new.

He was pioneering what would soon become "electronica" when Trent was still pushing his hot-topic centric electronic angst rock.

Tom Jenkinson (aka Squarepusher) along with Aphex and Autechre, basically created IDM (which turned into "electronica" once stupid marketing losers in the US got hold of it) back in the early 90's. He's got a shitload of releases and is one of the most influential electronic musicians of all time.

And dont get me started on the shitstorm that is Daft Punk. First of all, they came well after underground electronic music was already a global phenomenon, and second, their special blend of stealing other ppls music and putting a weak house beat underneath is pure garbage by most music snobs standards. To even mention them in a thread about Squarepusher is sacrilege.

>> ^kceaton1:

It reminds me of when people in the past used to ask me for good examples of electronic type music. I used to use The Fragile (two-disc album by NiN, if you don't have it do yourself a favor and get it) as an example for it (at the time Massive Attack was great as was Sneaker Pimps, but I was aiming for something U.S. centric), though I had to remind them that "The Fragile" was really a mix of rock and electronic. But, there are some tracks on "The Fragile" that ARE electronic(a). The track used for the very popular 300 trailer (you could say due to that track--if you haven't heard the song do yourself a favor and go listen now), "Just Like You Imagined" really helped showcase Trent Reznor's ability in electronic(a).
This was again proved when he won (with the great Atticus Ross as well) best musical score for The Social Network, which was essentially an entirely electronic album (Tron:Legacy of the same year included a soundtrack that was also electronic by the ever popular Daft Punk).
It's some of these past masters in this music category that you find this new generation of GOOD musical artists.

Joe Goes SOCCER

MY BROTHER MAKES ME ANGRY

Ron Paul Booed For Endorsing The Golden Rule

criticalthud says...

we were raised to think tanks, guns, fighter planes, and battleships were cool.
we're still socialized to believe so.
it invokes the "hero" and "patriot" we were raised to be.
it allows us to focus our personal angst, anger and racism on supposed enemies, dehumanized by propaganda.
and there is the continuing american fable that war is good for the economy.
war = fantasized glory and adventure for armchair warriors.

"Why women date assholes."

longde says...

Hahaha......happily married, so no angst with attracting women.

Doesn't have to be new, but originality would be nice. I mean, what in this guy's prattling has not been said by lonely guys since the beginning of time? He doesn't even repeat these ideas very articulately.

Why is it so sift-worthy? Seriously.

The fact that this video gets so many votes says volumes about the dominant demographic of the sift.>> ^papple:

>> ^longde:
Downvote for a boring, obvious, navel-gazing brain fart with no unique or interesting angle.

What kind of asshole is an asshole, but doesn't attract women? You!
"EVERYTHING MUST BE NEW TO ME OR I DON'T LIKE IT" -longde

Happy Krampus Day! Dang, Austria, you scary!

BoneRemake says...

>> ^oritteropo:

Nein, du Dummkopf, Österreich nicht Australien.
Nicht downunder.
keinkanal
dunkel
angst
feuer
>> ^BoneRemake:
australians eh? not canadian eh.. hrm sayyyy downunder ? say ?
Eh ?



Mulligan on that one. GOtta say I dont know what angle I was coming from.

"rly December, Austrians celebrate the Krampuslauf "

DUHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

To bad you can not downvote your own comment.



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