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>> ^therealblankman:

I'd much rather spend time on Mike Tyson island. I'm sure it would be more entertaining, less narcissistic, and the conversation would be better.


yeah i'm sure he'd chew your ear off

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thanks back at ya =)

i'm a china analyst serving overseas for the state dept

and you?

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thanks. i like your style and your depth of inquiry/understanding.
what do you do?

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man, i honestly think it's a hopeless can of worms... and imho, i believe that the continued advance of technology means that even our best efforts in "regulation" or making "fair" the process of political advocacy... well, i think we're always going to be lagging behind

first off, to even discuss the matter we need to divorce ourselves from our partisan political leanings (conservative talk radio, liberal press, wingnut internet content)

next, we need to avoid where possible the all-too-convenient labels, such as "corporatism", as it's much too vague - better to just understand that "big money" will inevitably lead to undue influence peddling in our political process

we should also understand the types of regulations or statutes that were tried (and failed) in the past, i.e. fairness doctrine, equal-time rule, and even the implications of miami herald publishing co. v. tornillo

we also need to reach some kind of concensus on both relevant first amendment provisions, e.g. freedom of speech and and freedom of the press (the latter being a certain candidate for the "big money" moniker) - any tinkering we do here carries disturbing implications

and finally, what the heck are we to do with the internet, where both the speed and pervasiveness of political advocacy easily avails itself to abuse from "big money" - just try imagining how we'd regulate big money from filtering through pacs to banner ads, popups, blogs and web-hosting

all that said... dude, i feel lost as to where to even begin forming a coherent solution - sorry

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I think culture can be used to affect evolution. Not always in a good way, though. The fact that the intelligent don't fuck as often as the dumb is kind of scary to me.

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I think it's simply a cultural evolution. We're breaking out of a 20 year oppression from freedom of speech known as "political correctness". I was listening to Louis CK the other day in an interview from a couple of years ago and he mentioned that his comedy used to be more "silly" and nonsense. He hadn't really found a voice for himself until this one joke that he told.

Half expecting the audience to gasp, he told them that he had a 3 year old daughter that was a "fucking asshole". The audience erupted with laughter. He then built on that joke and the next time he went on stage he told the first part, then said "I get the whole 'baby in the dumpster' thing". The crowd was dying of laughter. From story of personal evolution of an act, I deduce that we're all adjusting our compasses. We still know what ignorance is from the days of political correctness, but we're no longer afraid to offend others. We're now entering the "You don't have the right to not be offended" era.

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indeed. i'm wondering if the popularity of that type of comedy is indicative of some sort of positive trend in the evolution of the human consciousness. or maybe i'm just grasping for positive trends among the less interesting aspects of a singular species destroying the planet.



ha! delightful. "get over yourself comedy"! def. a far cry from amos and andy.
spot on. hopefully we are getting less petty as a species.
i've been kicking around the connection between evolution of the consciousness and cultural/societal evolution. something about w/out culture/society we'd be jabbing eachother with pointy sticks. culture as either an evolution lubricant or as the primary propellant. the pretty hip too on the idea of the internet, being a cultural phenomenon, propelling evolution based on information exchange.

I think it's simply a cultural evolution. We're breaking out of a 20 year oppression from freedom of speech known as "political correctness". I was listening to Louis CK the other day in an interview from a couple of years ago and he mentioned that his comedy used to be more "silly" and nonsense. He hadn't really found a voice for himself until this one joke that he told.

Half expecting the audience to gasp, he told them that he had a 3 year old daughter that was a "fucking asshole". The audience erupted with laughter. He then built on that joke and the next time he went on stage he told the first part, then said "I get the whole 'baby in the dumpster' thing". The crowd was dying of laughter. From story of personal evolution of an act, I deduce that we're all adjusting our compasses. We still know what ignorance is from the days of political correctness, but we're no longer afraid to offend others. We're now entering the "You don't have the right to not be offended" era.

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indeed. i'm wondering if the popularity of that type of comedy is indicative of some sort of positive trend in the evolution of the human consciousness. or maybe i'm just grasping for positive trends among the less interesting aspects of a singular species destroying the planet.

observational comedy is not a new thing. What the likes of Louis CK, Bill Burr, etc. do that's kind of different than "what's the deal with airline peanuts...I mean coooome ON" type of comedy, is they're honest about their everyday lives. They don't try to pander to what everybody knows, they tell what they know and either you can relate it to your life, or you can laugh at their life.

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I listen to his Monday Morning Podcast every week. I love his take on overpopulation. And just him going off on women. Check it out if you haven't already :

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not quite as politically focused, but equally as aware, check out comedian bill burr



right on thanks for the info. i'll check it out. do you think that type of observational comedy is becoming more popular? it kind of seems that way. "awareness comedy"?
werd man. dig yer posts

I listen to his Monday Morning Podcast every week. I love his take on overpopulation. And just him going off on women. Check it out if you haven't already

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not quite as politically focused, but equally as aware, check out comedian bill burr

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