Why Men and Women can't be "just friends."

Hive13says...

In my teens? Yes, of course I was just friends with girls.

In my twenties? Hell no, I had female friends but I wanted to sleep with them all. I am a guy after all.

Married in my thirties? Sure, but because I am married, they are all my wife's friends, and they wouldn't sleep with me anyway! Now I just sit back with all the other husbands and stare rather grossly at all the wives and their friends. We never say anything, but we are all thinking about the same exact thing.

TheSluiceGatesays...

Yeah, interesting concept, well executed, but I entirely disagree.

It's been a while since I was in college but I still have a group of about 6-8 friends from there, male and female, gay, straight, and we've all been in social contact for many years since without anyone hooking up, and I would consider them friends.

ctrlaltbleachsays...

Friendship is a form of interpersonal relationship generally considered to be closer than association, although there is a range of degrees of intimacy in both friendships and associations.

Value that is found in friendships is often the result of a friend demonstrating the following on a consistent basis:

The tendency to desire what is best for the other

Sympathy and empathy

Honesty, perhaps in situations where it may be difficult for others to speak the truth, especially in terms of pointing out the perceived faults of one's counterpart

Mutual understanding and compassion; ability to go to each other for emotional support

Enjoyment of each other's company

Trust in one another

Positive reciprocity — a relationship is based on equal give-and-take between the two parties.

The ability to be oneself, express one's feelings and make mistakes without fear of judgement.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship

kceaton1says...

I should add that I do have quite a few girl...friends, but I think it's the nature of the origin of the relationships that made them turn out this way. I ended up becoming friends with them when I was a little kid, like 6-8 years old. I'm around them enough that they are more like sisters than friends--and perhaps that IS the difference--the fact that they aren't necessarily friends, but almost family.

Of course, then I have to ask them the same question: What do they feel about me? The guy could still be right, but I doubt it. I think he's mostly right.

I do notice some girls like to keep their ex-ii as friends. I'll go on the record as stating that is a HORRIFIC idea. That would literally drive me nuts to date anyone doing that. I mean, I'd like to be "the bigger person" and let it slide, but that is just too much in your face and disrespectful--I think...

Paybacksays...

Any man can be just friends with any woman. It just requires "self-control". People who think otherwise have none, or lack character.

Ever been angry enough (that without self control) you wanted to punch out a friend? Does that make him/her your enemy?

Same goes the other way. If you respect the person enough to call them a friend, those urges are just that.

Also, you shouldn't fear the opposite gender friends of your "significant other". If there is a danger of him/her ending up with one of those friends, you obviously made a mistake to begin with. It's not the friend's fault, it's your partner's.

xxovercastxxsays...

Not to take this video too seriously but the key here is can men and women be just friends?

Just because you want to mount one of your female friends doesn't make her not your friend, true, but it does mean she's not just a friend, at least in your eyes.

That being said, I've had female friends who I have no attraction to. I'm sure at least most of them are also not pining for me and so we qualify as just friends.

longdesays...

I am still friends with many of my exes.

With one, we started as classmates, became friends, hooked up, came close to getting engaged, broke up, didn't talk for a while, and are now good friends.

None of my relationships with guy friends involve a fraction of that emotional complexity.

I think these interviews were well done, and uncovered the delusions of the women.

In college, I had many female friends that were good looking, which I was not in secret pursuit of. I mean, with a campus full of women, I think it would have been exhausting and frustrating to lust after every coed. So, there was a group of ladies i was actively campaigning to flip the status from friend to FwB or GF. I think "friend with benefits" is a nice concept, separating the emotion from the sex; I'm not sure if it's achievable. I've never achieved it.>> ^kceaton1:

I should add that I do have quite a few girl...friends, but I think it's the nature of the origin of the relationships that made them turn out this way. I ended up becoming friends with them when I was a little kid, like 6-8 years old. I'm around them enough that they are more like sisters than friends--and perhaps that IS the difference--the fact that they aren't necessarily friends, but almost family.
Of course, then I have to ask them the same question: What do they feel about me? The guy could still be right, but I doubt it. I think he's mostly right.
I do notice some girls like to keep their ex-ii as friends. I'll go on the record as stating that is a HORRIFIC idea. That would literally drive me nuts to date anyone doing that. I mean, I'd like to be "the bigger person" and let it slide, but that is just too much in your face and disrespectful--I think...

rottenseedsays...

Does "just friends" imply that one or both parties don't want a relationship with one another, or does "just friends" imply that neither one would fuck the other given the opportunity? Males are generally opportunistic when it comes to sex. I have a lot of female friends, many of which, at any given time in our friendship, I would love to have put my penis in an orifice on their bodies. A few years ago, however, I discovered that having female friends to go-to-bat for me brought me far more chances with women than trying to do it on my own. Many girls I've dated casually or seriously (including the 3.5 years relationship I'm in now) were all friends of female friends. If you put your penis in your female friends, it's less likely they're want to help you out...

peggedbeasays...

pffffft... i'd like to mention ladder theory. it seems to have been coined by a very angry, very sexually frustrated man on the internet. but i found it interesting. i have mostly dudes for friends. i've only gotten emotionally/sexually confused by 2 of them. one is a long term boyfriend. but i've interviewed them all about this ladder theory-ness. we all mostly agree with it. here it is:

men tend to have just one ladder, they would consider sticking their penis in every girl the know, just at varying levels. you may be the top rung on the ladder, or you may be at the very very bottom rung of the ladder. there is also the abyss... which is like "i'd rather chew my own arm off then sleep with this person". if you're there, you're either a relative or someone they dislike so much that you're not friends. or maybe you're an ex who did something awful.

girls have 2 ladders: a "guys they'd fuck ladder" and a "just friends" ladder. you can jump and/or straddle ladders, but you risk falling into the abyss.

i am aware that i've been/ may still be on some rung of my dude friends ladders, i suspect i occupy a rung at the very very bottom or maybe i'm in the abyss because i occupy "sister" status in their brains. they're all on my "just friends" ladder. so, it'll never happen. and i'm ok with that. i'm also not friends with emotionally stunted douchebags, which helps.

i feel like the only time you're not actually friends (despite whatever sexual interest may exist) is when you're so preoccupied with getting into your friends pants that you're not actually being her friend. or when one friend is in love and the other does not reciprocate. other than that, two reasonable, sexually attractive adults can be friends just fine.

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