Didn't set off my irony detector. Sowry.

In reply to this comment by Mashiki:
Kinda missed the point I was going for originally.

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http://videosift.com/video/TRON-Legacy-Daft-Punk-Derezzed?loadcomm=1#comment-1091372

In reply to this comment by Mashiki:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

That's a lot of fanfare for such an unremarkable piece of music.

Let me guess, you think dubstep is the height of music.

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http://videosift.com/video/TRON-Legacy-Daft-Punk-Derezzed?loadcomm=1#comment-1091372

In reply to this comment by Mashiki:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

That's a lot of fanfare for such an unremarkable piece of music.

Let me guess, you think dubstep is the height of music.

Your video, Jon Stewart on Climategate, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

>> ^therealblankman:
I can't tell you how disappointed I am that nobody else is familiar with this epic quotation. Marvin Rules.
In reply to this comment by Mashiki:
Where is the earth shattering kaboom?

Quickly! Get my P-38 space modulator. We're going to fix this!

I agree, he's one of my favourites.

I can't tell you how disappointed I am that nobody else is familiar with this epic quotation. Marvin Rules.

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Where is the earth shattering kaboom?

>> ^blankfist:
Troll.

Speaking of which Blanky let me reply here since you're a special kind of individual that doesn't like a dissenting pov. If you use hyperbole, you'd better understand what it is you're arguing. If you attempt to use law, you'd better understand the law. And if someone has a dissenting opinion that you don't like, you'd best figure out how to argue against it.

Just remember, unlike you. I can actually stand up against criticism.

Troll.

>> ^MikesHL13:
Don't forget to vote for your own video


It's much more fun to wait until later It feels more like a surprise...it's one of those weird Canadian things.

Thanks for the reply and input. Really this is the fun part about ethics, and the moral dilemma with something like this. It's easy to say, much harder to do when faced with the situation.

Good comment. I think the problem is one of control. If i knew a person knew where my family was being held hostage and i thought i could force it out of him, i'd use any means. But i can't present a series of legal or physical bars to my government which allows them to do harm to do greater good without also allowing them to do harm alone. If the whole world were trustworthy and interested in the greater good, i could allow my government license to do ANYTHING and know that i would benefit. In this world, i can't trust people so far, and i must demand we put the bars and laws in place so that my conscience is clean, but also so that people who were tortured and knew nothing will not beget more violence in the future.

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>> ^Jaace:
The point here is that torture is bad and we don't do it...

Depending, torture isn't bad. Incorrect application of torture is bad, using it in a way that makes a suspect want to say anything in order to avoid having it applied again so you gain incorrect information is bad. Use of torture when you know they're already guilty in order to actually get something from them so you can save lives? Ethically or morally either of those it could be questionable.

If I slap you in irons, for, "speaking against the president." Beat you every day, starve you, and break all your fingers. Then tell you to confess, or I'm going to start working on your toes and legs. We've got a serioius problem.

If I catch you as a known terrorist suspect, that's already planted a device that will kill up to 5000 people. I have no freaking clue where it is. And I apply sleep deprivation, loud music, and humiliation(also torture btw) to go with lighter side. To make you crack, so I can save up to several thousand lives. What happens now?

I suppose most people are going to start to have issues with that whole ethical/moral dilemma bit aren't they? Then again, I know we've got death cultists here, and can easily say "my moral standards are higher, than the lives of 20, 400, or 5000 people," then again they've never been in that situation either. The reality is, someone's head will roll if the truth came out that there was an individual, who could tell them where it was and they didn't do everything. Then it becomes, why didn't you do everything? Well the public didn't like torture...so we let them stew in a room.

Stating an ethical choice on what you believe, and being in the ethical situation, and knowing the ramifications of those ethical choices in the end are wholly different. So are the choices. The rules changed when the "older" breed of terrorism came back to life. Questions in questions, what is an individuals breaking point for their own ethical code?

Lets say the catchism now. Ethics is fun!