>> ^Trancecoach:

Yeah, you're right.. These guys are clearly lying. In fact, they're not even fire fighters! They're actors working on scale.. (how else would they know what it's like to be on a movie set?)
>> ^EvilDeathBee:
I dunno about you guys, but i'm convinced. This is such a conspiracy, there is no other explanation at all.



Is it possible that they're mistaken? In a building that was hit by a plane...fires and such, I would expect some very loud bangs.

>> ^PoweredBySoy:

This proves a conspiracy and coverup? You people are idiots. And obviously bored.


Love how all the sock puppet probies come out of the woodwork to nay-say whenever a 9/11 video appears on the sift.

Can't wait for the plethora of structural engineers that are members here to follow...

I think you forgot your sarcasm checkbox.>> ^budzos:

Pfft we all know from the many times it's happened before that a 110 storey skyscraper will be silent - in particular, free of any booming type noise - until it falls collapses. After all the times I saw this happen before and after, they expect me to believe the WTC is some kinda special case where a 110 storey building with raging fires in multiple locations actually makes loud noises?

Pfft we all know from the many times it's happened before that a 110 storey skyscraper will be silent - in particular, free of any booming type noise - until it falls collapses. After all the times I saw this happen before and after, they expect me to believe the WTC is some kinda special case where a 110 storey building with raging fires in multiple locations actually makes loud noises?

http://videosift.com/video/Architects-Engineers-Solving-the-Mystery-of-WTC-7

Well, as terrorists go, this is one of the nicer ones. Why couldn't they just have pied the WTC on 9/11 too?

That said, this is stupid. He's no legend, he's just a guy with a pie.

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>>@bmacs27: marbles
Who flew planes into the WTC on 9/11? By the way, I read "Which Path to Persia".
Have you heard of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion?"



Haha, let me guess. You have a argument to make that the "Which Path to Persia" manual is fraudulent?

So is that 9/11 question troll bait or what? Who made all the abnormal amount of Wall Street put bets on American Airlines and United between Sept 6 and 7. And on American Sept 10 at the Chicago Board of Options Exchange. Better yet, who sent US government made anthrax with hand written notes saying "Allah is great" to Congress men who were likely to oppose the Patriot Act?

Oh the alleged hijackers (courtesy of Paul Joseph Watson/Infowars.com):
Every single shred of evidence concerning the alleged 9/11 hijackers points to the fact that they were patsies controlled by informants working for the US government.
The US Special Operations Command’s Able Danger program identified the hijackers and their accomplices long before 9/11, but when the head of the program, Colonel Anthony Shaffer, tried to pass the information on to the 9/11 Commission, he was gagged and slandered and the vital information his team had passed on was ignored and buried.
Curt Weldon, Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, documented how the US government tracked the hijackers’ movements before 9/11.
Louai al-Sakka, the man who trained six of the hijackers, was a CIA informant. A number of the other alleged hijackers were trained at US air bases. In the months prior to 9/11, alleged hijackers Khalid Almidhar and Nawaf Alhazmi were renting rooms in a house owned and lived in by an FBI informant.
In a 2002 article entitled The Hijackers We Let Escape, Newsweek’s Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman documented how, “The CIA tracked two suspected terrorists to a Qaeda summit in Malaysia in January 2000, then looked on as they re-entered America and began preparations for September 11.”
The fact that there were numerous Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorists involved in the pre-planning stages of 9/11 is unsurprising given former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds’ testimony that Bin Laden was working for the US right up until the day of 9/11.

On the very morning of 9/11, the money man behind the alleged hijackers, Pakistan’s ISI Chief Mahmoud Ahmad, was meeting with U.S. government and intelligence officials.
Indeed, even after 9/11, the so-called spiritual leader of the very hijackers who allegedly slammed Flight 77 into the Pentagon, Anwar al-Awlaki, was himself invited to dine with Pentagon top brass mere months after the attack.

@marbles

Who flew planes into the WTC on 9/11? By the way, I read "Which Path to Persia".

Have you heard of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion?"

>> ^juliovega914:

This talk was severely lacking in actual citable statistics, or explanation of said statistics. It set off my bullshit alarm.


He's just saying if you play the odds you'd be smarter to wear a helmet in your car than on a bike, which no one does.
Combined with the fact that forcing people to wear helmets on bikes puts more people in cars which leads to a WTC sized pile of bodies every month in the US alone.

It's clearly true that a city full of cyclists even without helmets is healthier, greener and nicer all round than cars; but the commercial forces that shape our lives are going in the opposite direction.

Interesting just for the absurdity of the situation, no?
The counter argument is pretty easy to sell too though..

http://youtu.be/-iaNlobvJMY

>> ^Bruti79:

Derren Brown said it best: "Extra ordinary statements require extra ordinary proof to back it up."
Showing this guy built steel box cutters (which were impressive) to show how to make cuts, isn't extraordinary enough to prove that the US government took down their own buildings. You still need to find the answers to this things like: Why? How? When did they set it up? And if they're so logistically sound to plant explosives in three buildings and make it look like a terror attack, then why couldn't they plan a strategy for Iraq that matched it?
Jinx said it best: "Plane hit building. Building collapse."
Until someone recreates a Skyscraper in the desert, built the same way the WTC and flies a plane into it, and it doesn't fall. You're not going to convince people that it wasn't an inside job =\


I couldn't agree more. Until someone rebuilds the trade center exactly, and flies a plane into it, and it falls, I won't believe planes alone can bring down buildings.

Oil has never been a legitimate reason to go to war!

http://videosift.com/video/Robert-Newmans-History-of-Oil >> ^bcglorf:

>> ^notarobot:
Try not to think of the Afghan mission as a war, but as the Afghan pipeline construction project.

Right, there was no legitimate other reason for it. The WTC and multiple other attacks for years before that were all just orchestrated by the pipeline puppet masters, right?

>> ^notarobot:

Try not to think of the Afghan mission as a war, but as the Afghan pipeline construction project.


Right, there was no legitimate other reason for it. The WTC and multiple other attacks for years before that were all just orchestrated by the pipeline puppet masters, right?