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Siri vs Japanese English (or why pronunciation is important)

azukipie says...

>> ^garmachi:

Hopefully there's someone of Japanese/Chinese/some other Asian descent who can answer this for me.
Why is it that I can pronounce "walk", "wok" AND "werrrrrrk", yet this guy can't? I also hope no one thinks I'm racist, I'm just ignorant.


I posted this because I am an ESL teacher, and speak Japanese and I run across this everyday! So I think your comment IS justified. To give you some perspective, in Japanese they only have 5 vowel sounds. In American English is have 15 and that is NOT including all the diphthongs (double vowel) sounds. We use more of our mouth speaking English than almost ANY other language and therefore Japanese just DON'T have the muscles to create a difference between walk, wok and work without YEARS of practice. Japanese also don't have any /r/ sound that isn't followed by a vowel so saying an /r/ between /wa/ and /ku/ is totally foreign for them. Hope that helps!

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jmzero says...

The more creative someone's name is spelled the more likely I'm apt to think their parents, and they by extension, are illiterate morons who when asked by the doctor what their child's name was, just started spitting out random consonants and vowels.


Statistically, you're right. Someone studied it out - can't remember where - and people named "Jazzmyne" (or other variants, to a lesser extent) were dumber and less successful than people with the more conventional "Jasmine" (even after controlling for economic situation, etc..).

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Crosswords says...

>> ^schlub:

I personally can't stand when people think they're being "creative" by changing a letter or two in a name to make it "unique":
Jackson becomes Jaxon
Aden (or Aiden) becomes Caden, Jaden, Maden, Braden, Zaden, Gaden, and so forth...
Courtney becomes Kortny (wtf?)
Wow, so clever AND unique!


The more creative someone's name is spelled the more likely I'm apt to think their parents, and they by extension, are illiterate morons who when asked by the doctor what their child's name was, just started spitting out random consonants and vowels.

I understand to some extent in that parents want their children to have a name that not everyone has. I remember being in a class where there were 4 kids named Robert, which could be a bit of a problem when trying to address one of them, but it wasn't that big of a deal, nor did it detract from the Roberts' individualism.

The only thing I find worse, is trend naming. I swear there was a period of time when parents only named their kids Austin or Taylor.

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probie says...

^For me at least, it's his enunciation and the way he seeks favor. He's a very lazy speaker at times, slurring his vowels and consonants together. Nothing that a good voice coach and some practice under his belt can't fix; so that his T's pops and his S's don't sound like Z's, etc.

Regarding his attitude, specifically in this clip, he goes from delivering the information to "I'm going to ingratiate myself to the viewer by being funny" with the line: "We're talking cage match! Here comes the elbow!", etc. He loses the intelligent argument by trying to use an less-than-intelligent delivery and analogy. Maybe that works for some, but not me. If he's going to zing someone, then stay on target; Olbermann was good at doing that.

Oh and it's about time that some of the Right is waking up to that celebrity whore monster. Sadly, only some.

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srd says...

Why does my mind get filled with stereotypical images when I hear someone speak with an accent put three vowels and two syllables into the word "the"? And why do my teeth go on edge when I hear that stereotype being conformed to yet again? Am I just being southernist?

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Boise_Lib says...

I've always wondered--are these guys racists?

The inverse black-face and jugaloos (they changed one vowel and one consonant) worry me.

When they first came out I noted that most of their fans looked like skin heads--so, I stop watching anything about them.

Are they just punks with no agenda--or racist punks with no brains?

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geo321 says...

Well it's a great title to stir up contraversy.>> ^marinara:

hey its a great title, just maybe not for this video. hehe
and i wish his name pronunciation would either be all "ch" or all "j". keep illegal foreigners outta our alphabet or we will always be sorry. I remember this one time i was ambushed by swedish vowels and the umlaut thing pulled a gun on me.

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marinara says...

hey its a great title, just maybe not for this video. hehe

and i wish his name pronunciation would either be all "ch" or all "j". keep illegal foreigners outta our alphabet or we will always be sorry. I remember this one time i was ambushed by swedish vowels and the umlaut thing pulled a gun on me.

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Shepppard says...

ugh.. Being Canadian, we pronounce "the" as "Thee" when it's proceeded by a vowel.

So "Arguing with (Thee) Idiots" is how it's supposed to sound to me.
So..after hearing him pronounce it the way he does for that video..
I'll call you when my toes uncurl.

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spoco2 says...

Seeing as she's taking them off piles, and seeing as he's got some pre-determined set of vowel-consonant patterns then I would say someone set this up... and got in a looot of trouble



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