>> ^conan:
funny? i don't see the fun in that.


Really? Well I totally respect your opinion but in my opinion it WAS funny in a totally absurd kind of way. Hmmm... oh well, maybe I am crazy.

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I absolutely agree that life does not trump every other concern. And this is why I asked this question, because I think it is very interesting the way our opinions seem to change depending on the life or the quality of the life.

For example, I think that if Terri Shiavo wished to be allowed to die, that wish should have trumped the fact that she was still alive without discussion.

I do not put the life of a fetus on the same level as an adult life. I still think it is worth preserving, but not at all costs. If the quality of life of a pregnant woman is in danger of being destroyed because of a pregnancy, the choice should be hers. Still, the decision to abort should be made very carefully. I don't really want to go into that now.

Another example for the crazy people who get mad about abortion examples:

A suicidal person who has deemed her life unworthy of living. Is it our place to decide whether her life is worth protecting? What are we protecting? Life? The quality of life?

The death penalty is a tricky subject. Some think it is unethical because it is not a perfect system. If even one innocent life is destroyed, the death penalty is wrong. But the EDIT: innocent person might have rotted in jail for the rest of her life, anyway, and that is unethical as well. We would not abolish prisons because sometimes an inmate is innocent. The death penalty has been proved to improve the quality of life for the friends and family of the victim. So what is the right thing to do? Is it about life of quality of life?

>> ^gwiz665:
Life does not trump every other concern.
If that were the case we would be killers every time we swatted a fly. A young fetus is even less thinking and complex than a housefly, so I don't see much of a difference. To consider something holy, such that it commands total respect is an error, because you must be able to question everything.
If we talk about an adult developed mind then the value of its life is greater than that of an unthinking being. This is why there must be some limit as to when an abortion - or rather the destruction of life - should be allowed. I also think that a person can forfeit their life, if they commit a heinous crime. There is no reason for such a criminal to live, because they cannot contribute to society, so they should be put down like a rabid dog.

Trying to catch up. Rottenseed, you're next. I am moving back to school tomorrow but I will try. Don't know why I started a silly discussion when I'm so busy.

"The Total Respect for Human Life"
denotes a psychological attitude,
what does respect mean here? Isn't it a calculation? I mean the CIA and the Israeli military probably have "respect for human life."


It sounds like a corporate slogan
"Here at Blackwater we have total respect for human life"



@ campionidelmondo
yeah, realism ftw. If you look long enough at the so called REAL world you'll probably become as dumb as it is.


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REALISM, n. The art of depicting nature as it is seen by toads. The charm suffusing a landscape painted by a mole, or a story written by a measuring-worm.

REALITY, n. The dream of a mad philosopher. That which would remain in the cupel if one should assay a phantom. The nucleus of a vacuum.


from The Devils Dictionary

Life does not trump every other concern.

If that were the case we would be killers every time we swatted a fly. A young fetus is even less thinking and complex than a housefly, so I don't see much of a difference. To consider something holy, such that it commands total respect is an error, because you must be able to question everything.

If we talk about an adult developed mind then the value of its life is greater than that of an unthinking being. This is why there must be some limit as to when an abortion - or rather the destruction of life - should be allowed. I also think that a person can forfeit their life, if they commit a heinous crime. There is no reason for such a criminal to live, because they cannot contribute to society, so they should be put down like a rabid dog.

I dont mean this to digress the discussion, but:

Sanctity:
Google search Def
Dictionary Def

These discussions can become word games, because there is so much meaning tied up in each word, and we are trying to discuss the ideas behind the words. in my case, I no longer hold with "God" as a concept (I used to. I was a Christian for 25yrs, born again, all of it). So I don't believe in sacred. so I don't believe in holiness. so I don't believe in sanctity. Now looking at:

sanctity
Noun
the quality of something considered so holy or important it must be respected totally

I dont consider it possible for something to BE holy, so i cant have its holiness be a reason for "Total respect".

Others may have similar views on here, just as others will utterly disagree, and others think im being a dick.

But i dont think I am being. Would the phrase:

"The Total Respect for Human Life"
be exactly equivalent to "the sanctity of life" for you? I'm guessing that for at least some, it wouldn't, because the religious aspect is not separable, and is deeply important for them. its sacred because the bible tells them so, and that makes it sacred, and you cant argue with that. full stop. no discussion.

But if you don't have sacred, and have "total respect" or something else equivalent, you're already at a very different starting point/idea place, from which to consider this ethically.

Lay off MG? He's the one who said he doesn't want to shower with any homos, then later says "Stare at me all you want. It won't bother me." So, the first comments are just to be incendiary (which I totally respect and admire, because I'm likely to do the same)

Anyways, as to the policy, we would not have Stop Loss right now if they weren't busy kicking out gays. We would have Arabic translators and intelligence, but instead we only allow closeted gays to serve.

Since "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" came into force in 1993, 12,000 soldiers have been forced to leave the military, either because they refused to hide their homosexuality or because they were denounced by fellow soldiers.

On Friday, human rights organisations teamed up with groups like Log Cabin Republicans and a legal defence network for soldiers to plant 12,000 American flags on the National Mall in Washington to recognise the men and women who have suffered because of the policy.

The generals and admirals who signed the letter to Congress cited "scholarly data" which show that around 65,000 gays and lesbians serve in the US armed forces.

According to a poll conducted by CNN/Opinion Research Corporation in May, 79 percent of Americans think homosexuals should be allowed to serve in the military.

Dear Viacom,

Do what the fuck you want with material you created and paid for, I couldn't give a shit.

As someone who also creates and pays for entertainment, I totally respect your right to do whatever you like with it, and I see no reason why you have to give it away for free to the entire world just because the internet exists and is full of hippies.

btw, MTV Baltic sucks ASS, you really fucked that one up didn't you. I hope you lose all your money and stop making programs entirely.

Sincerely,

MINK

I have nothing but total respect and admiration for the soldier. To mimic Farhad, war is eternal among men. We might as well be ready for it. Also mentioned before, this isn't abuse...this is training.

My dad was an Airman and my son wants to do the same. I couldn't be prouder!

i agree with phelixian up there. i don't really like Marilyn's music, but i totally respect him. he is a very impressive guy when you see him talking normally in interviews and stuff. i saw him in Bowling For Columbine and i was impressed there too