>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^criticalthud:
so the US guys train more and harder (since, they're from AMERICA, fuck ya!) and have better locker rooms? and more money makes the athlete?
hmmm....
just ribbing you. sure, lots of variables, those included.
a strange one is...track and field isn't even really popular in the US. Most athletes opt for other sports.

Well, I'd imagine @Unsung_Hero got it right. More money for athletes = not having to flip burgers at a "day job" = more time to train.
Also not so much locker rooms, but dieticians, personal trainers and so on. Contrast with (for example) Ireland which got it's first olympic sized swimming pool in the 90s.


Ok, then explain how we don't do as well in distance events. do we not train for those? Why do those broke-ass kenyans whup up on us fancy pants all the time? must be the diet?

>> ^criticalthud:

so the US guys train more and harder (since, they're from AMERICA, fuck ya!) and have better locker rooms? and more money makes the athlete?
hmmm....
just ribbing you. sure, lots of variables, those included.
a strange one is...track and field isn't even really popular in the US. Most athletes opt for other sports.


Well, I'd imagine @Unsung_Hero got it right. More money for athletes = not having to flip burgers at a "day job" = more time to train.

Also not so much locker rooms, but dieticians, personal trainers and so on. Contrast with (for example) Ireland which got it's first olympic sized swimming pool in the 90s.

I'll testify that i get irritated very easily in large crowds. I get irritated when shopping centres are packed, pubs, swimming pools, roads, you name it.

Straight from the casting couch to a swimming pool.

*terrible

>> ^chingalera:

>> ^Quboid:
This is exactly why the internet is such a wonderful thing. How else would we ever get to see things like this?

Public Swimming pool
In your bathtub with goggles
International Space Station
A friend's fish tank
In you mate's Guinness when they're not looking
Lot's of places to see eggies in agua mon~


Yeah, but I'm not going to do any of these. I'd never in a million years even think about this, never mind do any tests. Yet here I am, a few clicks and I've seen it all.

>> ^Quboid:

This is exactly why the internet is such a wonderful thing. How else would we ever get to see things like this?


Public Swimming pool
In your bathtub with goggles
International Space Station
A friend's fish tank
In you mate's Guinness when they're not looking

Lot's of places to see eggies in agua mon~

This only serves to aggravate me. Another taxpayer panel in which we enjoy the benefit of plausible deniability (or whatever there greased 300,00$K lawyers claim works for the current system of worked in loopholes). More so, because I know not a single one of these sons of bitches will do time or ever care--really care. They should be in jail for life. They should be in a federal prison, full security, no white collar bullshit.

They should live on a meager sum the rest of the entirety of their days with all their buildings, lands, businesses, capital, funds, CDs, IRAs, everything except their social security and even that should be looked at (as they should be allowed a low middle income and that is IT); they can gain no earmarks, no passes from their buddies or gifts (although he can live with him as long as his money is not being paid out), they cannot benefit from a will or other form of transfer ship at an appointed time or setting, and then ANYTHING I haven't covered. No politics, no books, no television, no movies, you're in the "white collar" death knell that is their true jail cell. He CAN enlist in the army, they may have a modest job, but the dream of riches are OVER. They chose the ultimate path of pressure that can be exerted on a white collar criminal.

If only we thought that crime like that could be as dangerous as a murderer (and trust me--I'm sure many of you do know already--but, if you don't white collar crimes can end up killing thousands of people, but their hands are virtually clean). Perhaps it is part of the taboo we have with mental disease, we'd rather it remain in the back-room or rather in the back of your mouth. Strangely many of these white collar criminals most likely all suffer from having almost NO empathy for others; they literally could care less what it is like to be me or you. This is a mental issue, but we never talk of such things--it's rude! But, violence has its own mental disease "shards" as well that cause it to start either young or later in life...

But, we refuse to deal with the main topic, so how about punishment(s) atleast? White collar crime is seen as something you do at your beach house in Florida on the weekend. Your lawyer tells you about it on your flight into Boston on Monday, you have three death threats sent to your e-mail, you mildly humming, "Hip To Be Square", send them to your spam folder and block the senders after you send them a death threat/repossession letter back through a company proxy, which then you use another proxy to feed the final bytes through. Your lawyer tells you you'll have to show up to an injunction and say this exact prepared statement, which of course, nicely enough they allow you to read from when they take your testimony. This is our guy. Right now he's eating a stake with a glass of Chardonnay from Italy in the early 90's--meanwhile, "Easy Lover", is booming in the background while his mistress takes a swim in his Penthouse's swimming pool. He doesn't have to get up early, so it'll be a long night--after all nobody is coming for him.

Attack them hard and they might take notice.



What a new punishment that would be for white collar criminals--a death sentence, for them.



Just institute what I said above and it may change things. Attack the problem psychologically, as jail-time is either meaningless or to them it's "Club Fed". But, this of course requires good lawmakers, which requires competent voters, which requires a great education system...

No calls, no businesses, no helping: they are burnt.

Kind of disappointing - I mean, it's nice that you can get a general approximation that way, but I was expecting more of a clever technique when they said "best way". I mean, if you're weighing our head, isn't it quite likely you're trying to figure out what its density is? I mean, that's why people do the swimming pool tests for body fat, is to calculate density - you can't very well do that if your weight measurement assumes an averagely dense head.

Or get a strobe light with adjustable flash rate. Then you can see this effect in real time.

I spent one evening with a bunch of friends, a strobe light and a dark, indoor swimming pool. Lotsa trippy fun. >> ^Zawash:

Brilliant - got to try this at home. Hmm - by slowly increasing the shutter speed, the water should go from flowing water to still droplets like in the video. A simple 25Hz wave should be great for recording at 25fps.

>> ^Deano:

Aren't you supposed to go headfirst? Being whipped around like that does not look comfy!


Stephen once said that he couldn't even dive into a swimming pool. I know some people like this who are totally devoid of any sort of "body knowledge" or their spacial relation to the world. They jump in feet first cause they don't trust themselves or the thing they're doing.

That was a horrendous interview all around, it...went...nowhere... Cenk is getting overtly irate at a Fat Cat Republican Congressmen who says that he read the 2011 Social Security release. Then Cenk has a large problem of "centering" himself, allowing himself to give the man who is talking enough rope to hang himself on it. He almost had him after the first part, but he got SO angry and overzealous in his pushing of the conversation that the conversation drowned in the ramblings of two pride filled men who couldn't stand to allow conversation to be heard or really go anywhere--with some sort of pint or reason.

Cenk needed to get this idiots ideas, all of them, onto the plate before pressing. When I say pressing I don't mean yelling. Cenk needed to allow this Congressmen to bring in his own "proof of fact" (with various sources for them to look at and then take him out strategically if he used them and the source is incorrect, biased, or useless--tell the public why this is so), so that when he said that the surplus was a short fall they could napalm him later for it. Of course a lot of these idiots read a few lines of facts before they go into an interview and try to use them--the fact that Cenk pressed him and he said nothing except to mumble his correctness and sit and smile, just smile when you may have erred--but you can NEVER be wrong. That lets us know that that may have been the case here. You can EASILY look on factcheck.org and quickly find out that Cenk was right, but there was a short fall too. That number was of course still large, but was clearly defined by MANY that it indeed was most likely the result of a terrible economy and recession.

BTW, when Republicans say we NEED to cut Social Security, if you're really listening they're actually saying we wish to liquidate Social Security (slowly though, so you don't rebel all at once). I would assume anyway. After all, if we wished to really solve the problem we could SLOW DOWN life for ourselves. Work only 6 hours a day and only 4 days in a week. We get One month off in the summer, the nation splitting that break into groups the size of thirds or fourths of all of us. The Federal system could limit certain types of inflation and interest (and maybe one-day we could almost entirely kill off interest, but probably not rich men need their golden swimming pools). We could start to shape the way we pay people (as I assume most of you want your grocery store as much as your doctors and so forth). To move so much money from a business to help to pay people between a certain age range. Teenagers may have to take the bullet of the lowest wages, but it may secure their futures in the process. Then we could talk about re-managing the entirety of the Federal Budget and maybe one day we could get away from spending for a war machine that HAS NO WARS. BUT, this is crazy talk.

Instead... Are FICA and SS minimums will go up, thus we make even less, and our taxes will as well--unless you're rich. Your life will stay about the same and your affect upon the middle and lower classes will show your indifference to their demise or situation--unfortunately this seems to be something you learn by going through, what you know nothing of--it is the power and the price to having true empathy. Houses will tend to cost as much as a top scale middle-American could pay for one in half their lifetime. Gas will cost more, as hybrids get more efficient--until you never by it again they will try to make sure you ALWAYS pay the same amount. You work 8 hours a day but overtime is nearly mandatory everyday, somedays can get up to 10 hours, if you're a blue collar it might even go around 12. Then they want you to retire at 72. Medicare and Medicaid barely get you along, you HAVE TO buy a "jacket" plan now (such as AARP), this says nothing of dental or other medical concerns.

Or we stay a lot like it is now. I hope not, because I always hope for a brighter future.

I'll be blunt the Republicans are taking us FAR from that idea and Cenk doesn't help here. His audience must eventually try to grab every ear it can IF it, if we, are to be successful. Otherwise, a revolution may be coming--not now, but someday off in the future--maybe in my lifetime. I'm 35 and paid into SS.

/oops longer than I meant, hopefully not too much dystopia or utopia -- things in reach, for worse or better...

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Except of course Turkmenistan’s

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Try decades.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^TheSluiceGate:
In the UK, where this is set, there's only 3 types of wild snake and only one, the adder, is poisonous.
Would be perfect here in Ireland where the are no wild snakes of any kind whatsoever.
Other than the politicians of course.

Yeah, would be awesome in Ireland, where the weather is good enough to warrant a pool once every few years.

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