"that doesn't justify using people in laboratory experiments"

uhhh, exactly how does holodoc think medical science works?
We use people in laboratory experiments all the damn time. It's called double-blind testing and it means that very sick people get given a placebo that we know does nothing.

I don't remember this episode, but I'm surprised at this lack of nuance from Star Trek.

And holo-space-nazi is right... it's funny how ethics go out the window when one of the main cast members life is threatened. But if a red-shirt is on the table....

Anyway, there's a massive difference between USING knowledge obtained by unethical means and GAINING knowledge by unethical means.

Don't get me wrong, medical ethics is really important. But throwing away knowledge after the fact is not only pointless, it's immoral. Especially in this case, where you're not even using the person who did the research, just a digital representation of them.

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I think they're trying to signal that probe from Star Trek 4.

They've changed their minds. It can kill us all.

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*fascinating. There is a real-life Star Trek Prime Directive thing happening here.

Obviously, we don't want to introduce disease to these people, but I'm pretty sure we have some stuff (medicine, plumbing, refrigeration, Stephen Colbert, etc) that would make their lives better. Interesting ethical conundrumm.

Guys, try up to episode 3 and then decide. Episodes 3 and up got way better with less humor. It is like old Star Trek TNG, etc.

I'm a total self-confessed geek. I play video games, I like sci-fi, Star Wars AND Star Trek and I was even given a Lego Saturn V for my 40th by my friends who are also geeks. Hell, I work as a computer programmer.

I should find this show hilarious.

But I hate it.

Aside from the creepy undertones, it's a really tired stereotype. Yeah, I'm a geek and I like geek things, but I'm also a martial artist, a snowboarder and a mountain biker. And the same is true of all my "geek" friends. The idea that just because you like comic books means you're Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons hasn't been true for decades.

I literally don't know anyone like the characters on this show (and that's not "none of my friends are like this", that's "I don't think many people like this exist").

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*promote for those who are being ushered in to the Star Trek universe with discovery. It is an iconic franchise that helped shape society.