Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DDCeuKmoA

On Obama's election, Sotomayor, and Hilary as secretary of state. Not really as interesting as this segment though.

^ Yes, the thing holding this back from being a rational discussion is Rachel being unfair and operating on fallacious arguments.

Rachel was only slightly exaggerating Pat's position. His logic seemed to be:

Obama picked a Latin Woman, therefore Obama passed over a better-qualified person for racial reasons, and this unnamed better-qualified person would have naturally been a white male, therefore Obama's discriminating against whites on the basis of race.

Pat did do a little cover by just out and out saying that he thinks Sotomayor is deficient in some objective sense (though the "facts" he based that on were false), but that wasn't very convincing.

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Really? Was Ricky's ethnicity made fun of in the show? I never saw any of that, but I haven't seen much of I Love Lucy. I don't think that they constantly made fun of Ricky, but his accent and other things created humorous moments. There is nothing racist about this clip, for instance, in which Ricky's accent creates humor, and Ricky points out the stupidity of English spelling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBXl0vPzFSA. His accent is cute and funny, and Desi plays it up for humor.

See, to ME it always seemed like Ricky was the intelligent, successful, exasperated one, and that his dumb blonde wife was always screwing things up.

>> ^entr0py:

And yes, you have to be a bit stupid not to realize that the way Ricky's ethnicity was constantly made fun of was racist, and would probably be offensive to most people from that part of the world.

>> ^quantumushroom:


No gay marriage advocates have proved there's "no difference" between the sexes. It is odd that despite never providing any proof of this claim, you still repeat it.
There is no proof that President Obama was born in Kenya, and certainly no proof he is a communist.
Only in Lunatic Fringeland does graduating from Princeton summa cum laude mean you’re a dumbass. I guess then notable conservative Princeton graduates like Samuel Alito, Donald Rumsfeld, David Petraeus, James Baker, Frank Carlucci, George Shultz, John Foster Dulles, Meg Whitman, Malcolm and Steve Forbes, George F. Will and John Stossel must be even bigger dumbasses. Yet Sarah Palin, who needed six years and four different schools just to earn a bachelor's degree and John McCain was fifth from the bottom in his class rank, they are brilliant. NOT!
It is interesting how you so often whine about the lies told by the “liberal MSM”, yet when the rightwingnuts and regressive media tell lies, you gobble it up like they are serving you filet mignon.

Doesn’t it bother you that you are being played for a chump?

It's derogatory because a Supreme Court nominee has to be subjected to low brow ethnic humor that was itself unnecessary, a non sequitur.

There are countless examples of outright racist vitriol from our friends on the left aimed at any and all non-White conservatives.

It doesn't matter that Sotomayor is a woman, because the gay marriage advocates have proved there's "no difference" between the sexes. The genetic lottery of her Hispanic-ness also means nothing...wasn't Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez also Hispanic? No, he doesn't count.

Sotomayor is opposed for being an activist on the bench and general dumb-ass with an unimpressive record. She's not alone, as the Supreme Dorks are one of the most spoiled and ignorant welfare classes in America.

I'll give her this: she's more qualified to be President than the Kenyan-born communist.

Let's examine just how racist this is. The Senator made a pop culture reference to a very well known, heavily accented Cuban TV character while addressing a Puerto Rican woman. First of all, Desi Arnaz was awesome. My question is, are references to Ricky Ricardo inherently racist in nature? I've never heard them used that way, but I could be wrong and I'm ready to be corrected. I don't think that Ricardo was an ugly racial stereotype (I've only seen bits of the show, so I could be mistaken). He had an accent, but there is nothing wrong with that.

I would be worried if Coburn had quoted Speedy Gonzales or Tony Montana or Cheech or something.

Think about it. Is Coburn making any kind of derogatory statement about hispanic people in any way? I mean, really, it may have been kind of inappropriate to make a joke that called attention to her nationality and possibly drew a comparison between Sotomayor and Ricardo (if he even intended it that way), but just how racist was it? Not very. It makes you cringe a little bit inside, but is it really even derogatory?

I would venture to say that this really isn't a big deal and that the reaction is a classic example of our hypersensitivity to racial references of any kind.

I am willing to accept that I may be wrong about this, so if anyone wants to explain to me how this is racist, I'm all ears.

>> ^ponceleon:
In all fairness, she kind of set the stage for a humorous response from the senator by making a very silly remark about shooting someone being perhaps illegal.

This was part of a longer conversation about gun rights, and in particular, he was asking her whether she believed that people have a right to self-defense. The immediate preamble to this clip was something like "It depends on state law, and in New York the threat needs to be immediate and proximate..."

But you're right, the example was delivered with mirth, and I did laugh at Coburn's response, and didn't even think of it in a racial context.

However, Republicans are very sensitive to racially charged speech -- have you heard that once Sotomayor said something about Wise Latinas with experience being able to better judge a case than a white man without those same experiences, and that makes her essentially the same as a hood-wearing KKK member?

I fully expect them to call for Coburn's resignation, since this was far more offensive (in that it might've actually offended one or two actual people).

>> ^shiner_man:
Considering Sotomayor made the comment that Latina women would make better decisions than white men, I think this is pretty self explanatory as Rush Limbaugh making a joke.
But you know, if you take the clip and cut it up to as small as possible and refuse to view any of the context, you would probably come to the idiotic conclusion that he is just that stupid.


Oh, your spoiling an amusing hit job with facts. Who wants those?

Considering Sotomayor made the comment that Latina women would make better decisions than white men, I think this is pretty self explanatory as Rush Limbaugh making a joke.

But you know, if you take the clip and cut it up to as small as possible and refuse to view any of the context, you would probably come to the idiotic conclusion that he is just that stupid.

I think Rush makes a good case for Sotomayor's point in the "latina woman reaching a better decision" remark.

I'm almost ashamed to be Caucasian...

Sorry, this is perhaps an inappropriate observation given the subject matter of this video, but did anyone notice the Michael Steele quote on the bottom @ the end? No "slammin and rammin" Sotomayor? Does that sound oddly pornographic to anyone else?

>> ^longde:
Furthermore, people who are protesting this incident are not blaming white people in general for this tragedy, they are trying to hold one white cop accountable based on the known facts. Your hyperbole doesn't help, but it certainly reveals your bias.


I'm not trying to defend the cop, he didn't do his job properly and he murdered an innocent man and he should be made to pay for it. And to insinuate that I am some kind of racist is one of the biggest insults I can imagine. Maybe I have a different point of view, but that's because I come from a place that racism is so incredibly rare.

I just find it so odd that it seems like every week Al Sharpton is on the news with a new person to label as a racist or with a new issue that he thinks is specifically designed to hurt black people. I just don't get it.

But then again, I also find it insane and disgusting that conservatives in America think that Sotomayor might be a bad choice as a Supreme Court justice because she is Hispanic and likes Hispanic food.

The simple fact of the matter is that the United States will continue to be pitied by the rest of the world until you can sort out this constant use of the race card.

Lyrics:

EG: where all the shawties on the court?

JS: It's ridiculous, one woman on the Supreme Court, uh, doesn't seem right to me.

EG: Ain't nobody have a breakfast with all sausage and no eggs.

MG: We need a shawty with a hot body and sexy legs.

EG: When the court convenes it's an ancient sausage festival.

MG: Only two ovaries, sixteen testicles..

BB: There are so many qualified women out there.

MG: Qualified to get low in they apple-bottomed robe.

MB: I completely agree with you.

EG: And I complete agree, too.

MG: How does Ginsburg stand being the only woman who ain't a man?

BB: Judge Ginsburg said, she's really very lonely without another woman.

MG, EG, BB: Without another woman, lonely without another woman!

EG: I know what it's like with a woman gone, cryin in the nude with the curtains drawn.

MB: Breaking news!

EG, MG: Oh snap! News is broken! Breaking news, in ya face!

MB: Obama has picked Sonia Sotomayor.

EG, MG: She's a shawty, She's a Boricua!

EG: Jurisprudent!

JS: With soft thighs!

MG: And other soft features, that Ginsburg can appreciate, stayin up late, makin sure to thank
heaven above.

EG: because she ain't

All: lonely without another woman, lonely without another woman!

EG: Listen up, y'all, Joe Biden's got a shout out!
This one goes out to all the serbians
And also the ladies
But mostly the Serbians

JB: And until the Serbian people
Look themselves in the face
Understand what their leaders have done
And convinced them of
Until that moment arrives
Serbian people will not
Be able to shed this notion of victimization
That all of their leaders prey upon
And manipulate them with
Until that moment arrives
Until the Serbian people look themselves in the face
Until that moment arrives
Until that moment arriiiiiiiiives

KC: April showers bring May flowers
But what do May flowers bring?
AG: Romance for a shawty
KC: Possibly lead poisoning
AG: ::Barf::
KC: Lead poisoning
AG: ::Barf, barf:: I'm gettin sick like
::Barf, barf, barf, barf, barf::
KC: Before you dig in and start to enjoy all the
Fruits and vegetables of your labor
AG: Shawty
KC: You'd better get your soil tested first
AG: Oh
KC: Your soil tested first
AG: Oh, I live in the ghetto
So I'll expect the worst
KC: Paint chippings and old pesticides
May be buried insiiiiide
AG: Me, oh my
KC: Raising the level of lead in the soil
The tests are inexpensive
And some local health departments
Do them for freeeeeeee
AG: Even for a talking head thug like me?
KC: Once you're in the clear
Mary, Mary quite contrary
Plant away
AG: Okay
And when asked how does your garden grow
Tell them it's healthy, green and lead-free
AG: I'll say it's healthy, green and lead-free, shawty
KC: Healtheeeeeee
AG: Healtheeeeeee, believe me
I ain't tryna munch on a poison zucchini

NG: This bill actually has the secretary of energy
Regulating jacuzzis
Now, the ideastrikes me
As close to being nuts

AG: I agree--I'm an angry gorilla and that makes me angry

JI: The only jacuzzis this will regulate
Will have to produce 2,500 mega watts of energy

AG: You made me angry with lies
Hurt my angry gorilla pride; I'm angry

NG: On page 233, uh
Line 5: portable electric spas

All: Portable electric spas!

MG: No spa is above the law!

NG: Now, I don't know what a portable electric spa is
I was told it was a jacuzzi
But that's in this bill

AG: So it's true!
I'm no longer angry at you
My original anger's renewed

JI: We will give you a hot spa
That is energy efficient
I hope that doesn't offend you

AG: He might have a point
My anger's makin a switch
Cuz you're being a little b*$&
But maybe not
Maybe you're just defending freedom and justice for jacuzzis
ohhhhhh
What's this? a single tear that is wet that i shed

When an angry gorilla cries
Who's gonna be there to dry his eyes?
And when an angry gorilla's depressed
Who's gonna heal him with a soft caress?
Ooh ooh ah ah, the tears are rolling down my cheeks
Ooh ooh ah ah, liquid sorrow that my eyes excrete

And I'm a soulja, but a soulja's got feelings,
Don't know whom to lend my anger to,
And that's why I'm crestfallen and confused

I hope he dies eating delicious mexican food. and while i'm here, i thought i'd share what i found on Sotos wiki:
Sotomayor also rejected an appeal of Doninger v. Niehoff, where a teenager at Lewis S. Mills High School was barred from running for school government after she called the superintendent and other school officials "douche bags" on her blog while off-campus.
eh