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Jordan Klepper Takes On Canadian Truckers | The Daily Show

newtboy says...

I read it, nowhere did it give an estimate of what those protests cost, and it indicated there were multiple other routes for the oil to travel so didn’t even disrupt oil transportation completely, much less ALL commerce.
And it was about pipelines crossing their (or protected) land it seems, a far cry from the truckers. Yes, the validity and severity of your cause matters, just like the damage you do and to whom.

Billions worth of goods stuck temporarily…but no actual estimated cost for their delay, this cost billions in lost production and salaries that won’t be recovered.

That protest was targeted against the offending entity, not the populace. I have no issue with natives blockading their own land and preserves that feed those reservations against permanent destruction for some private profits. That’s a far cry from the truckers blockading the main border crossing for industry and tourism because they’re afraid to get a poke.

The numbers I saw were special. Hundreds of millions-billions lost (your billions in goods delayed doesn’t have a price tag). That was before the bridge was reopened. These protesters weren’t satisfied with that damage and continued to close your capitol with ever shifting demands. Since regular measures had failed, I support emergency measures, seizure, even forfeiture after trial, of any funds or tools used.

Perhaps they became only as localized (but certainly not as targeted, and localized in a city not the unpopulated country), but they had already done exponentially more damage and showed no sign of end or even demands.

Let’s ignore someone personally supporting a grass roots movement outside their country and control, please. I find it a red herring totally unconnected to how he governs.

Yes, some Floyd protests were more violent than the truckers, some weren’t, remember how they were all violently smashed, tear gassed, rubber bullets galore, run through with police trucks, unmarked vans pulling up and grabbing people crossing the streets, unmarked vans driving through towns full of police shooting tear gas at any moving body, etc? Don’t pretend the response is similar.
Also, the Floyd protests lasted a weekend in most cases (occupy Portland really wasn’t about Floyd) and went elsewhere the next march. They weren’t closing down one area for weeks intent on staying. Most lasted hours and were peaceful until police became violent, despite right wing media’s fear-mongering.

I think you’re stretching, putting on blinders, and doing insane mental gymnastics to pretend you believe that. From the actual damage caused, the idiotic reasoning behind it (quickly abandoned), the extremely uncanadianness of the self centered far right rally masquerading as protest, the international damage, the foreign involvement from planning to funding, these are unique “protests” in numerous ways.

Their idiotic beliefs are only one of many distinctions I’ve pointed out, and as I mentioned only color public opinion and the amount of patience they’re given by the public, not how the government treats them. It’s not at all honest for you to pretend that’s the entirety of my position…it’s very Bob of you, and has lost some of my respect.

Pipelines crossing sovereign territory or preserves = bad so blockading those areas to force pipeline movement = good….oil companies didn’t truck the oil out, they increased shipments from other areas by rail. Read the article you linked.

Native cultures and governments are different. Pretending an elected board for a reservation works for the people is naive in the extreme. Read about politics on reservations, who funds the people that get elected in most cases, what happens to opposing candidates…saying the board signed off while so many showed up to fight against it seems a bit at odds, no? Like maybe the board members were bribed, had ties with the oil industry, or other conflicts….just maybe?

And again, those protests didn’t cost a fraction what the truckers did from my research. Delaying delivery of a billion in goods isn’t the same as costing a billion in losses. Neither is delaying or cancelling a billion dollar project. Be adult please….don’t make such specious arguments ….please. They don’t slip by, and they make me think you are being disingenuous.

Vote While It Counts

newtboy says...

Lol. Bob, you want to keep illegal and fraudulent votes!? I think you just made a huge Freudian slip!
Voter ID is a must? But funding it isn’t? Telling.
What’s wrong with fingerprinting? No ID required, everyone already has one. Yes, it’s possible for two people to have identical fingerprints, like 1/7000000000, WAY less than the chance of voting with a fake ID…..and no requirement to go to the dmv with records you may not have, pay, and wait for a state ID that’s not useful for anything else in many people’s lives. That’s a poll test and a poll tax in one swoop. Both vote fuckery.

Cheaters like me? I defy you to explain….

…but I know, just like this reply, you CANNOT answer questions or back up your blathering, so you’ll fly off on some new delusional fantasy red herring.

Not a single democrat vote fraud or vote denial then, we’re agreed. It’s all Republican vote fuckery, both by fraud and suppression.

Democrat vote fuckery is legally getting people registered to vote and convincing them Democratic policies are vastly superior to Republican obstruction without policy, then getting them to vote legally, then having those legal votes counted!! Rand Paul said exactly that, insisting that MUST BE STOPPED, and it’s obvious you agree.

bobknight33 said:

I'm spot on.

Keeping illegals and fraudulent votes is a must.
Voter ID is a must.

Cheaters like you cant handle such a system.

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newtboy says...

Big surprise, Cyber Ninjas closed. They say it’s because they’re getting daily multiple death threats from Trump terrorists, but it’s also to escape massive debts and fines.
Their results showed hundreds of more votes for Biden…like the others.
According to Maricopa county, cyber ninjas made 22 misleading claims, 41 inaccurate claims and 13 claims that were just totally false. The county said cyber ninja made faulty conclusions about more than 53,000 ballots in 22 different categories.
The company is now closed, owning the county $7500000 and rising at $50000 per day in fines for refusing to turn over their work….still…since August.
Not to mention the nearly $7 million they cost the county by invalidating every voting machine they touched.

This is why, since you once asked, these fake unofficial partisan audits shouldn’t be allowed. They’re expensive, they erode trust in democracy (something Republicans have already irreparably harmed on multiple fronts) and no matter what their results they won’t change any minds….you still think Trump won Arizona despite every scintilla of evidence and your (and multiple official audits) audit screaming otherwise.
I hope the CEO has to pay his company’s debts or be held in contempt….but being Republican I expect him to slip away and leave the now over $14 million price tag for their idiotic fiasco for taxpayers to pay….Trump hasn’t paid one dime for audits from the tens of millions he raised to fight election fraud, it’s all still in his wallet (or paid to his creditors).
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5SF: Sheet Ghost

BSR says...

The sheet slipped its corner under the crack in the door, inching through with a mind of its own. She froze staring at it, her leg half out the window. Max stopped screaming. They just watched as the fabric kept pooling inside, about to take human shape again.

Calmly, Max turned to her and spoke deeper than he ever had before, somehow knowing it was the end. As the sheet rose behind him, he intoned to her: “Why couldn’t you save me, Mom?”

China’s New Bio Weapon Targets Race and Ethnicity

newtboy says...

It’s not about bringing him back to reality, that ship sailed in 2016. It’s about not letting him trick others onto his sinking, rat infested ship as it slips loudly into the briny deep.

cloudballoon said:

A troll's gonna troll, what can we do? Don't need to give him the sick pleasure of getting a long reply. Just let these sifts die in his queue instead of wasting time asking him to get sense of reality.

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I’m 100% Serious

newtboy says...

Unbelievably *terrible idea.

Never in a million years, and it shouldn’t happen, and wouldn’t help. Trump would show for the money and do nothing but bash Obama as a foreigner Muslim illegitimate “so called president” (who won two more presidential elections than Trump), would blame all his failures on either Obama or Biden, and would interrupt Obama’s every thoughtful point with rambling, self congratulatory nonsense. Trump has no interest in unification unless that means everyone unify behind him and he’s emperor. Trump is a divider, his entire platform is “blame the libs for everything wrong, take credit for anything that’s working, even if he opposed it”. He has nothing to offer but hateful lies.

Trump is incapable of having a nice discussion. If the other people speaking aren’t just praising him, he thinks they should just shut up and let him praise himself. It’s an impossibility for him to sit and have a productive conversation with a non sycophant, especially one as intelligent and knowledgeable as Obama that would outshine him like a supernova beside a black hole of ignorance. He wouldn’t make it 5 minutes before his first temper tantrum.

Obama doesn’t need the money, he’s a real, successful, happy, self made multi millionaire...no doubt he would donate any payments to the needy ….Trump does need the money, he’s an unhappy failed businessman and broke trust fund baby with dozens of criminal court cases pending and hundreds of millions in unpaid bills...no doubt he would pocket every penny...and Trump is considered by most Americans as personally responsible for the worst attack on Washington since 1812 as an attempted coup....and the idea is to give him another high profile platform from which he can try again to make his baseless and highly divisive case that he's not a loser, like he does at his shrinking rallies and random paid events at his properties.

If you want to unify America, you need to remove Trump from the equation, he divided America more than slavery. Division is his only real accomplishment….how does this guy think he’s the one to help unify?

It's like saying Jim Jones or David Koresh should be publicly debating the Dalai Lama to unify people around religion in positive ways, they both just had that one little slip up and their remaining people still believe in them for the most part.

Ex-Trump Adviser Steve Bannon Arrested & Charged with Fraud

newtboy says...

Lol. Really? What did he let slip that pissed them off?

Don't forget, since he has federal immunity, he can no longer claim the 5th and can be forced to testify in federal court against his co conspirators....and not just these three.

Everyone who got blanket pardons can be forced to testify against Trump or be in contempt indefinitely. A pardon is both an admission of guilt and a federal immunity deal.

surfingyt said:

repubs kicked the mypillow moron out of their event after he was on bannons show.

Judge explicitly said Bannon was admitting his guilt. This means Manhattan DA and NY AG can go right after Bannon, and every state will jump into the class action against him. interesting being dropped today, just as the Manhattan DA is empaneling a grand jury for indictments. The "party of law and order" republicants LOL

thanks for reminding us bob we got another L lined up for ya

How To NOT Use A Roundabout

spawnflagger says...

lived and drove in Qatar for a few years - there were many 3-lane in and 3-lane-out roundabouts. (also drove in UAE where it was the same). You are supposed to yield to those cars already in the roundabout. Several of the roundabouts also had red-lights (aka "signals", aka "robots"). Left lane is for going left (3rd exit on a 4-way roundabout). Middle lane was for going straight (2nd exit). Right lane was for going right (1st exit). Usually works fine once you're used to it. You aren't supposed to change lanes inside the roundabout, and use your right turn signal when you are exiting (and crossing lanes to exit). If you are maintaining speed and people are yielding and exiting as they should, no collisions.
Trickier roundabouts are those with more than 4 exits, or with additional "slip roads".
On the straight roads, there's no notion of fast-lane or passing lane. But if there's a Land Cruiser tailgating you and flashing their high-beams, change lanes. It's not personal, or road rage, the locals just like to drive fast (and often in any lane in the roundabouts)
Another difference between driving in USA is that green means go, in any direction... whereas in US, left turn is yield on green, unless there's a green arrow.

How a Kar98k Works

bremnet says...

It's considered to be a very reliable and long lasting action. The fit and design keep the action "tight" through repeated use and reduces wear on mating surfaces. A larger-than-most extractor claw reduces the possibility of stuck rounds from breaking the claw or slipping out during extraction. A noticeably smoother action when chambering or extracting a round. I don't know that it contributes to the accuracy of the rifle, would say not in my experience, but opinions vary.

Impeachment Managers Make Case Against Trump to Open Trial

luxintenebris says...

"Never underestimate the stupidity of American blowhards."

Y'all approproated that from H. L. Mencken.* Thought of that too. But sometimes, folks can surprise a body.

EX: mininum wage ballot ininitive, a few election cycles ago, came up in 5 RED red states and they passed easily. even when the state govenments wouldn't do so at gun point. sometimes folks know what's what and go w/it.

just saying things can go so bad for so long, good things can slip in w/o anyone noticing. progress in america has never came in waves but in sporatic pulses.

heck. the GOP was a progressive movement at conception. some of that progressness flowed into the turn-of-century. got nat'l parks from teddy. (think of that? a Republican supporting land - for everybody - just to look at and not exploited? it's true!)

hope for hope's sake, s'all.

'Lightn' Hopkins said (or close to), "If'n your first though is 'I can't'; then don't even try". I say we should try. It can be done.


*he also said, "On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." spot-on.

Sick

newtboy says...

Lol.
Nothing but his own words....hitting on 10 year old girls and his own daughters. It must be confusing....do you get pissed at that douchebag Trump for smearing poor little Trump, or do you defend snowflake Trump from that lying asshole, Trump?

Trump will landslide....you mean he'll lose control, slip, and crumble, taking his cult with him? Cool!

We know you'll be smiling thinking of American cities burning. You are an enemy of America, after all. Another red tsunami 2020

bobknight33 said:

Nothing but smear.

Trump is a leader and doer. Biden is just a follower and would be a puppet for the far left.

Trump will land slide tomorrow.
When your radicals start burning , looting, killing in you Democrat cities I'll be home smiling and thinking that these fascist are just creating more Republicans for 2022 and 2024.

Tomorrow will be a MEGA GREAT day.



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