>> ^residue:

What if I have diarrhea real bad and I'm struggling to get across the road to the bathroom emporium and I'm moving kind of slow. Here comes ole ForgedReality in his Mazda Miata on an ego trip thinking everyone is out to get him so you clip me with a mirror. How's that responsible? If you're driving a car, you have a personal responsibiliy to not hit people with it regardless of what you THINK their intentions are.
And for the record, I've been clipped twice by a mirror while walking on the side of the road and hit with a bumper since I was apparently crossing too slow for some retard who thinks his car is a toy


haha.. Mazda Miata. I drive a sport pickup.

But if you've been hit that many times, it tells me that maybe you shouldn't be playing in traffic, pretending you're a vroom-vroom-car. I'm considerate of drivers when I'm walking. I get the fuck out of their way as quickly as I can, say if I'm walking by a shopping center driveway, or thru a parking lot, or even a crosswalk or something.

I know how annoying it is to have some thug wigger gangster punk bitch taking his sweet time because he thinks he's "all that," and doesn't take other people into consideration. It's the same kind of person who doesn't wave to the person who politely let them merge in a line of traffic, or the guy who doesn't even make a "thank you" gesture when someone stops to let you walk by.

It's all about a general deficit of respect that stupid people have grown up with the last couple generations. Everybody's out for themselves, and it's just "me, me, me" as if nobody else even matters.

So yes, if someone hits you with their car, they're either homicidal, mentally disturbed, or, much more likely, you're just a prick.

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Also, I guess to more directly answer your question: If it appears you're struggling to cross the road, limping and grasping at your buttcheeks, yeah, I'll be like, "damn that motherfucker really has to take a shit!" I might even stop to help you across, so long as you promise not to spray rectal treasure all over me in the process.

I'm talking about the pieces of shit (usually black, for some reason) that walk DOWN the street, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, not even really making an effort to get to one side or the other. They look back at you, like, "wutchoo gon' do, honkey?" and keep slowly walking down the street, like they aren't gunna move for you, so you better go AROUND them. Okay, so now you're forcing me into the oncoming lane because you're a dick? Fuck you. You're not endangering MY safety; you're risking me blowing a fuse and endangering YOURS.

yes. really.
it was fucking bizarre.
and it preyed on a disenfranchised subculture. really i never go the whole punk rock evangelical christian thing. at all. not that youre not entitled to your own personal belief set and spirituality. its the bizare group think evangelical part that doesn seem to mix well. but whatever. i thought it was funny that the sermon was all about zombies basically.

i dont know, i was raised mormon and never saw anything nearly as bizarre there as i have seen in these hip rock band power point churches. like catholics, mormon services are very reverent and ceremonial and traditional. they also dont have like one guy that talks all the time. the congregation all take turns giving talks and running the service. and theres no paid clergy. say what you want about the mormons, their beliefs are full of shit and the dogma has hurt alot of people close to me. but the services are tasteful and frugal at least. and they dont get into the wierd shit until youre a high preist and going to temple. and until the recent funding of anti gay marriage propaganda i had pretty much no problems with how they spent and dealt with tithing.

i also totally thought going to mass with my catholic stepmom was a hoot.



In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
I dont want to sound offensive but...really? I mean, really?

I had a girlfriend who was an evangelical and wanted me to convert, I went to church with her thinking it couldn't be too different from my somewhat traditional catholic upbringing. When services started we watched clips from The Passion of the Christ and then discussed how to get tickets for 5-10 minutes. Then the pastor rode in on a harley and we watched clips from Orange County Choppers. The episode was about the motorcycle guys teaching kids about how to work on motorcycles and the sermon was all about why it is so important to start your kids off learning about jesus early on. Then the full band roared into action (two drum sets, three guitars, several singers and a few horns) followed briefly by collection (I'm assuming to pay for the big screen tvs and projectors in the room, not to mention the band and the Harley) and then a Passion ticket raffle.

We left and my g/f at the time described how great it was that the church could get a message out that people today could relate to. I was going through my head thinking about how much everything must have cost for that one session (poverty, chastity and faith right??) and getting reamed out by her for not waving my arms back and forth in 'praise' when they were singing.

So, not that I dont believe you or anything but, damn, the things some people do.

fyi that whole incident above happened when i was struggling with disbelief I was feeling which only made things weirder.

In reply to this comment by peggedbea:
my exhusband was/is severely mentally ill. when all else failed, one of his doctors recommended going to church. at that point we would have done anything . she recommended a church that catered to punk rockish young adults, which i suppose we were. so..... we went. they were all very nice of course, the church was called "deliverance" and we had to make jokes about how fucking creepy that is. it was in a dead, run down shopping center from the early 80s. it looked like a tattoo studio from the outside, with tattoo'd up skateboarding young punks seemingly loitering outside. at 21 and 29 we were probably the oldest people there.

sooo.... the pastor comes out. the sermon that day is about raising the dead. and how if jesus could do it and he was a man, then we could do it too!!! everyones homework was to heal the sick and raise the dead. FOCUS ALL YOUR ENERGY ON RAISING THE DEAD!!!!!!! then he played a 45 minute long guitar solo which made all the kids raise their arms or rock back and forth on the floor. also everyone HAD to give all their money, if they didnt raise $10,000 that week the church would be shut down, so give all your money then go home and get money from your parents.

soooooo we were of course highly fucking offended by everything that went on there. and besides that, a medical doctor prescribed a church sermon about raising the dead to mental patient with psychotic features. WTF?!?! i wont even get into all the hundreds of ways that could have gone terribly wrong.
luckily my husband hated religion even more than i do and knew damn well that was 100% bullshit and not license to go on a fucking zombie hunt with his machete or something.

something is terribly wrong.

I dont want to sound offensive but...really? I mean, really?

I had a girlfriend who was an evangelical and wanted me to convert, I went to church with her thinking it couldn't be too different from my somewhat traditional catholic upbringing. When services started we watched clips from The Passion of the Christ and then discussed how to get tickets for 5-10 minutes. Then the pastor rode in on a harley and we watched clips from Orange County Choppers. The episode was about the motorcycle guys teaching kids about how to work on motorcycles and the sermon was all about why it is so important to start your kids off learning about jesus early on. Then the full band roared into action (two drum sets, three guitars, several singers and a few horns) followed briefly by collection (I'm assuming to pay for the big screen tvs and projectors in the room, not to mention the band and the Harley) and then a Passion ticket raffle.

We left and my g/f at the time described how great it was that the church could get a message out that people today could relate to. I was going through my head thinking about how much everything must have cost for that one session (poverty, chastity and faith right??) and getting reamed out by her for not waving my arms back and forth in 'praise' when they were singing.

So, not that I dont believe you or anything but, damn, the things some people do.

fyi that whole incident above happened when i was struggling with disbelief I was feeling which only made things weirder.

In reply to this comment by peggedbea:
my exhusband was/is severely mentally ill. when all else failed, one of his doctors recommended going to church. at that point we would have done anything . she recommended a church that catered to punk rockish young adults, which i suppose we were. so..... we went. they were all very nice of course, the church was called "deliverance" and we had to make jokes about how fucking creepy that is. it was in a dead, run down shopping center from the early 80s. it looked like a tattoo studio from the outside, with tattoo'd up skateboarding young punks seemingly loitering outside. at 21 and 29 we were probably the oldest people there.

sooo.... the pastor comes out. the sermon that day is about raising the dead. and how if jesus could do it and he was a man, then we could do it too!!! everyones homework was to heal the sick and raise the dead. FOCUS ALL YOUR ENERGY ON RAISING THE DEAD!!!!!!! then he played a 45 minute long guitar solo which made all the kids raise their arms or rock back and forth on the floor. also everyone HAD to give all their money, if they didnt raise $10,000 that week the church would be shut down, so give all your money then go home and get money from your parents.

soooooo we were of course highly fucking offended by everything that went on there. and besides that, a medical doctor prescribed a church sermon about raising the dead to mental patient with psychotic features. WTF?!?! i wont even get into all the hundreds of ways that could have gone terribly wrong.
luckily my husband hated religion even more than i do and knew damn well that was 100% bullshit and not license to go on a fucking zombie hunt with his machete or something.

something is terribly wrong.

my exhusband was/is severely mentally ill. when all else failed, one of his doctors recommended going to church. at that point we would have done anything . she recommended a church that catered to punk rockish young adults, which i suppose we were. so..... we went. they were all very nice of course, the church was called "deliverance" and we had to make jokes about how fucking creepy that is. it was in a dead, run down shopping center from the early 80s. it looked like a tattoo studio from the outside, with tattoo'd up skateboarding young punks seemingly loitering outside. at 21 and 29 we were probably the oldest people there.

sooo.... the pastor comes out. the sermon that day is about raising the dead. and how if jesus could do it and he was a man, then we could do it too!!! everyones homework was to heal the sick and raise the dead. FOCUS ALL YOUR ENERGY ON RAISING THE DEAD!!!!!!! then he played a 45 minute long guitar solo which made all the kids raise their arms or rock back and forth on the floor. also everyone HAD to give all their money, if they didnt raise $10,000 that week the church would be shut down, so give all your money then go home and get money from your parents.

soooooo we were of course highly fucking offended by everything that went on there. and besides that, a medical doctor prescribed a church sermon about raising the dead to mental patient with psychotic features. WTF?!?! i wont even get into all the hundreds of ways that could have gone terribly wrong.
luckily my husband hated religion even more than i do and knew damn well that was 100% bullshit and not license to go on a fucking zombie hunt with his machete or something.

something is terribly wrong.

>> ^rougy:
So...what I'm hearing is...some people think that treating Palistinians more harshly will make them stop strapping bombs to themselves? You know, show them who's boss?
I wonder how many Palestinians were killed by the IDF this month?
Wonder how many Israeli's were killed by Palestinians?
Is it a one-to-one ratio? Probably not.
And the settlers? That really is an issue that has to be addressed. To all the world, it just looks like a racist land grab. I'm sorry to say that, but it's hard to describe it any other way.
Shalom.


My point was, that the treatment was not harsh for harshness' sake. The point is to make it impossible for a suicide bomber to be able to strap on a bomb and get inside an Israeli city. If there were no suicide bombers, there would be no wall...

I happen to be one of the vast majority of Israelis who had a friend die to a suicide attack. This isn't a far-away news story to me. This is real life.

I don't have any numbers for you on the Israeli vs Palestinian deaths this month, but what if I did? Do you really think anyone would be content at a one-to-one ratio? Yes, they only have under-equipped, under-manned squads of guerrilla fighters. Is it conceivable to you that any nation with an army wouldn't use it to defend it's own citizens?
Tell me you honestly believe that if a Mexican drug cartel started suicide-bombing San Diego, the US army would stand by and do nothing...

I'm against the settlers and their entire agenda. To me they're a bunch of religious fanatics that only want to do what they think God told them, and that happens to be "Take back all the parts of Israel that aren't part of Israel any more" at the moment.

We evacuated Gush-Katif once (The settlements in Gaza, some of which were whole towns, with shopping centers and all) and we can evacuate the current ones. Not with this government however, since half of the ministers are settlers themselves...

I sincerely hope Netanyahu keeps going with Obama in this direction, but I can't see it happening with the current government. Ah well. Governments last 2-3 years here, so let's hope Livni gets more votes next time...

[Part deux]
What happened next on that fateful day is shrouded in much mystery
Since the shopping center was demolished and abolished was all history
I'll tell you the legend and I'll tell it with glee
for it is a legend of one interesting and curious Bee

They say that the girl fell down to her knees and wept
Her tears rolled because of the promise that could not be kept
She'd always gone to extremes, this Pinky-faced lass
This last straw had brought her to a critical mass

Moderation was an Alien Concept to her
and her blood boiled and caused a stir
in her mind she lashed out right and left
like the pale rider was this Lady of Death

Whether this was real or imaginary, few can say
What is known is the legend that haunts us this day
The one she wept for came down to the store
And he shouted to her and unison with the bird, "NEVERMORE"

With that word the girl slumped down
her anger was taken, reduced to a frown
"Look at me, love, look at me now"
and the girl cleared her tears and remembered her vow

"I did this all for you and your joy"
"I know you did, I am a lucky boy"
"How can we stop this from happening again?"
"I know just the thing for this to end"

When the two left the center arm in arm
There had only been minimal harm
and the girl would never be the same
She was now happy, and UsesProzac was her name.

blah, this isn't a real debate, more of a one sided argument with an emotinal person and a level headed one.

Sex isn't something that is happening in school, so it isn't something schools should be providing goods and services for. What's next, a shopping center for every school? School's shouldn't be in the business of providing anything but education to student's in my opinion. If they want to buy some at a store, no one should stop them, but a school isn't a place for sex, and it shouldn't be providing anything but educational materials. Why are my tax dollars going to condoms? Anyone on the other side of this issue to point some light in my direction?

I would keep a AK-47, as it's automatic fire and ammunition would not be problem over large geographical areas. As a side arm I would keep a shotgun and for worst case scenarios I would keep a large machete.

I would not opt for chain mail as it restricts my mobility. Am assuming we are talking Tech 1 zombies that can only barely walk fast enough. I would opt for flex fitted overalls fitted with criss crossing plastic covers, along the lines of football uniform.

I would also opt for a large shopping center. Making camp on roof and access only by ladder know that zombies do not possess the necessary grip ability to sufficiently climb anything. Stair cases would be barricaded. I would exhaust fresh produce first and then live off canned meat. I would observe and study the creatures waiting for them to eat themselves out. On evenings I will make molotov cocktails to throw down and glee as they walk like firey candles.

I would make sure to fit out my SUV with a roll cage and slit windows, I would also opt for non deflatable tires with slicked corners that would push out making it hard to climb. I would drench slick oil or other liquids so that no grip can be attained on its surfaces. Door mounted shotguns to allow fire within a 45 degree angle off the doors. There will be no windows. Storage in the back for gasoline and syphons to steal gas from other vehicles.

I will not stop, try to look for or try to investigate anything looking for survivors. Its not my responsibility and they would need to prove that they are human to me first. I would make sure to check everyone after any sort of excursion for bite marks or infection, if found I would quarantine them, kill them if it proves to turn them.

only problem with that, is a chopper is amazingly expensive to keep in the air, and cannot follow for as long as you'd think before having to refuel.

also, it's very easy to lose a chopper (i.e: enter a multi-story carpark that joins a shopping center). But hard to lose one that can spot you a mile away as the only car speeding

... and to be fair, i dont think that door touched him. he swerved to dodge it and lost his footing

ok so what if i pogo sticked though a shopping center the difference is with skate boarding u r riding on top of a vehicle and ultimately have less control than if u r jogging additionally u can stop pritty dam fast with u feet and on average u rnt going more than 10mph. + when u jog u shews rnt exactly going to detach from your feet and hit sum one. the problem is with skaters that stick to one place constantly ore brake benches and crap. the vast majority of skaters r fine its just the ones that are dicks that make people worried about them. anny way far worse than skaters r them old people with the moterized cart things.

Its not entirely surprising that he was unsure which building he was under when the collapses began, as he may well have entered the underground from a number of different places. They were likely moving in multiple directions underneath the buildings while manning walkies talkies and phones, and managing many people. The underground area was huge, too.

"Buildings 1-6 were connected by an underground mall (the concourse), which was the largest enclosed shopping center in New York City. Below-ground levels contained public parking, mechanical equipment rooms, and the WTC Port Authority Trans-Hudson (PATH) railroad terminal." http://www.buildthememorial.org/site/PageServer?pagename=mm_history_faq

Saying he dug his way out might be in reference to he and his staff/companions simply clearing debris away that lodged against exterior doors. I've said, "I dug my car out of the snow today," when I simply cleared a bit around the tires, maybe to imply a more grandiose experience.

As they were underground they avoided much of the dusting that those who could not get out of the streets received after the collapse. Residual dust on their clothes from the air could both be dusted or washed off with a wet cloth and would be hard to see in this video.

The argument could also be posed that if they were in on some huge conspiracy and were granting an interview about events to a random press person, they would have a more air-tight story. But I wouldn't be one to pose this argument.

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The inside shots of the city (not the miniature models) were shot in a Dallas shopping center after hours.